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[All Spoils] Key Words for Outsider Magic and Mordite
wizard nelson:
the source of necromancy has been left unexplored though. it gets its power from being NOT, this could be tied to outsider as hades, the god the afterlife has always been portrayed as strictly against it(he feels it impunes on his kingship of the dead). not that it necessarily equates being directly from outsider. as Evil bob uses the wolfwaffen(these have a specific name in other fantasy genre, esp forgotten realms) and he was a creation of the most powerful known necromancer its likely necromancy has its roots with anubis. which if you know anything of eygpt and its ancient religions makes alot of since. problem is anubis was knocked off his throne at some point and either joined with the fallen like the fomor, was ejected from reality or obliviated. the first choice being the most likely. i know this proves nothing but i wanted to point out the possible anubis connection to necromancy's origins.
peregrine:
Bob was owned by Kemmler, but I don't think Bob was created by Kemmler.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: peregrine on February 11, 2013, 04:20:12 AM ---Bob was owned by Kemmler, but I don't think Bob was created by Kemmler.
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Bob was around before Kemmler, but Evil Bob was a personification created by Kemmler. I'm figuring that's what Nelson meant.
And my only issue with necromancy being tied to the Outsiders is that it literally means almost everything in the series would then be tied to the Outsiders. It would make them the Dr. Claw to Harry's Inspector Gadget. (And yes, that would make Molly into Penny and Mouse into Brain)
peregrine:
Evil Bob, to my mind, is Kemmler's Bob entirely excised from regular Bob, without any of his less murderous history. Not something "created" by Kemmler, but the condensed version of regular Bob's interactions with Kemmler. A radical difference in personality would be explained by the abrupt change in ownership, rather than each new owner making a new shell program.
wizard nelson:
thats what i meant about bob yes. its not so much outsiders, umm how to explain? everything has been shown as a balance (even if it isn't actually an equal balance) such as reality verses outside, heaven vs hell, summer verses winter, 'life' magic vs 'being not'. some things that are clearly a part of reality still holds aspects of the outside chaotic emptiness. doesn't necessarily mean its outsider related. personally i see this as a sort of balance too. indeed if winter hadn't been shown as holder of the gates i'd have said they were antithetical to reality as obviously MW is the supreme unmaker. i think the best way to put it is with a metaphor. wyldfae are clearly of the sidhe but not actually under the courts domain. necromancy is of the outside aspect of emptiness but not actually under outsiders domain?
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