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Law Talk
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Theonlyspiral on February 14, 2013, 10:57:53 PM ---Where do you think his mad fanaticism came from if not magic?
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Having been raised in a Fomorian Cult? I mean, they have children they raise...raising them to worship them is logical, and a lot less effort (after the first generation) than magical mind control. I mean, where does any mad fanaticism come from?
This is the model Nicodemus uses, after all.
Theonlyspiral:
So if they had been Magically purged it would be all good, but if it was raised in the cult then it would be a lawbreaker situation?
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Theonlyspiral on February 14, 2013, 11:04:26 PM ---So if they had been Magically purged it would be all good, but if it was raised in the cult then it would be a lawbreaker situation?
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Depends on how 'magically purged' we're talking. If they're Renfield-level mindless and unreachable, then they don't count. If it's subtler than that ala Peabody's stuff, they'd probably still count as Human even if magicked somewhat. Being raised in a cult they'd definitely qualify as human, though.
blackstaff67:
--- Quote from: Theonlyspiral on February 14, 2013, 05:09:58 PM ---So here's another question for everyone: The Formor. Now the Formor use augmented servitors, modified by magic and (likely) alchemy to become less like Human Beings, and more like the Formor themselves. In Ghost Story (click to show/hide) When Molly is attacked and Harry roasts some of them neither seems very concerned. Would you slap lawbreaker on someone who hit a Formor servitor with a gout of fire? Or would they be in the clear?
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I suggest a re-read of pages 207-8, I believe that technically speaking you may be in error, with respect. And that's why they're off the hook, because the bad guys exercised Free Will; to be honest, if a player pulled that in my game and the NPC's did that, I'd hesitate to slap Lawbreaker on the player. Free Will gives the ability to choose and sometimes, we choose to make the wrong decision or choice.
And yeah, what Deadmanwalking said about Free Will and stuff like that.
Mrmdubois:
I hadn't considered them being raised in a cult, that actually sounds pretty likely and means they probably qualify as mortal.
In that specific instance though, yeah I think the servitor that stepped into the fire suicides by magic. He didn't have to step into the flames, and they were not purposefully set up to kill or Harry would have just hit them with it instead of setting up a barrier.
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