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Hogeyhead:
You guys say that if you use runic magic to kill you would get the law breaker trait? Okay first of all I should mention that it's being ruled like the non sponsored version of seelie magic (or unseelie) which is not necessarily sponsored magic, it's just the innate magic of the fey. In this case he's the son of Odin so he learns runic magic. Fey don't gain the lawbreaker trait for killing with magic, and I don't think changelings do (with seelie magic, not say evocation) so I would think that runic magic would follow the same rules. Of course myself being recently being made a warden would probably need to object if I saw it. (Not that my character would really care much if he didn't gain the stunt)

Am I misunderstanding this? If so we were about to rule wrong.

Cadd:
If the user of the magic is considered mortal, they would get Lawbreaker. If the user is not considered mortal, there's no Lawbreaker. What power is used is irrelevant as long as it's magic fluff-wise, what matters is who is doing it.

Of course, what constitutes a mortal in this case is somewhat fuzzy. Wizzards are mortal. Fae are not. Changelings (and other scions)? Good question. Neither the source material nor the game books specify this.

I'd probably not give Lawbreaker, but instead mandate further refresh spent gliding toward the non-mortal parentage, to represent embracing that side further. You're essentially choosing your non-mortal heritage over your mortal heritage.

Hogeyhead:
Well we have decided that if a mortal kills a changeling/scion with magic he/she gains the lawbreaker power. I believe this is the official position. This would imply that they are mortal with regards to the law, and would also gain the power for breaking them. This assumes that it is as you say and that it doesn't matter what kind of magic is used.

Haru:
For a changeling, I think you can go 2 ways. If you let them take a lawbreaker, they are sort of going down the mortal road with a corruptible but free will. If you let them take additional powers from their supernatural parent, they are going down the fae route. Either way, it's a good place to enforce the choice.

Hogeyhead:
Well he has already taken inhuman toughness, recovery and strength, and he plans to upgrade some or all of these, also I know he plans to eventually go the god route, but he hasn't taken it yet. That's just it he hasn't chosen yet, so killing him with magic would still be breaking the law, shouldn't the law then apply to him? If not fully then in some way? Also if all this is the case does he hex? We decided that he wouldn't, but is that how it should be?

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