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Mrmdubois:
Just because they're not human and lack the same basics in terms of free will and all that doesn't mean you're not reinforcing a mindset that goes, "Kill 'em." Killing anything with magic promotes fantastic racism, it's just a lot harder to feel bad for vampires and other predators because they usually have it coming.

ReaderAt2046:

--- Quote from: Mrmdubois on May 09, 2013, 05:50:25 PM ---Keep in mind that narratively that means you believed with our entire being that the person you killed needed to die.  You're pretty likely to have been doing that to the bogeymen that have been coming after you too though and for some reason they don't stain your soul.  A lot of picking up Lawbreaker has to do with self perception, not just the outside mechanics of Wardens coming after you.  So there's a lot of factors to take into consideration when you break a Law.  Do you think you did?  Do they think you did?  Will you actually take the power?  A lot of that can come down to context.

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This is part of the point I'm trying to get at. I keep seeing people say that breaking the First Law corrupts because it means you believe that you have the right to decide who lives and dies, but if on a fundamental level, what you believe is "Protect these innocents" or "punish this murderer", shouldn't that be what is enforced?

Troy:

--- Quote from: ReaderAt2046 on May 14, 2013, 10:58:57 AM ---This is part of the point I'm trying to get at. I keep seeing people say that breaking the First Law corrupts because it means you believe that you have the right to decide who lives and dies, but if on a fundamental level, what you believe is "Protect these innocents" or "punish this murderer", shouldn't that be what is enforced?

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Surely, as a wizard, you can protect people without killing anyone. And isn't saying "punish this murderer" nearly the same as "this person needs to die" if punishment means killing him?

ReaderAt2046:

--- Quote from: Troy on May 14, 2013, 12:28:07 PM ---And isn't saying "punish this murderer" nearly the same as "this person needs to die" if punishment means killing him?

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Of course, that's why you would be justified in killing him. The point I'm trying to get at is that the RAW seem to say that doing a good thing for a good reason can turn you evil, which doesn't make any kind of sense.

Tedronai:
You presume that killing can ever be a 'good thing', whatever of the reasons.

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