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Oirthir:
Do you one better. here's the whole thingy
Nemesis
by H. P. Lovecraft
Through the ghoul-guarded gateways of slumber,
Past the wan-mooned abysses of night,
I have lived o'er my lives without number,
I have sounded all things with my sight;
And I struggle and shriek ere the daybreak, being driven to madness with fright.
I have whirled with the earth at the dawning,
When the sky was a vaporous flame;
I have seen the dark universe yawning
Where the black planets roll without aim,
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.
I had drifted o'er seas without ending,
Under sinister grey-clouded skies,
That the many-forked lightning is rending,
That resound with hysterical cries;
With the moans of invisible daemons, that out of the green waters rise.
I have plunged like a deer through the arches
Of the hoary primoridal grove,
Where the oaks feel the presence that marches,
And stalks on where no spirit dares rove,
And I flee from a thing that surrounds me, and leers through dead branches above.
I have stumbled by cave-ridden mountains
That rise barren and bleak from the plain,
I have drunk of the fog-foetid fountains
That ooze down to the marsh and the main;
And in hot cursed tarns I have seen things, I care not to gaze on again.
I have scanned the vast ivy-clad palace,
I have trod its untenanted hall,
Where the moon rising up from the valleys
Shows the tapestried things on the wall;
Strange figures discordantly woven, that I cannot endure to recall.
I have peered from the casements in wonder
At the mouldering meadows around,
At the many-roofed village laid under
The curse of a grave-girdled ground;
And from rows of white urn-carven marble, I listen intently for sound.
I have haunted the tombs of the ages,
I have flown on the pinions of fear,
Where the smoke-belching Erebus rages;
Where the jokulls loom snow-clad and drear:
And in realms where the sun of the desert consumes what it never can cheer.
I was old when the pharaohs first mounted
The jewel-decked throne by the Nile;
I was old in those epochs uncounted
When I, and I only, was vile;
And Man, yet untainted and happy, dwelt in bliss on the far Arctic isle.
Oh, great was the sin of my spirit,
And great is the reach of its doom;
Not the pity of Heaven can cheer it,
Nor can respite be found in the tomb:
Down the infinite aeons come beating the wings of unmerciful gloom.
Through the ghoul-guarded gateways of slumber,
Past the wan-mooned abysses of night,
I have lived o'er my lives without number,
I have sounded all things with my sight;
And I struggle and shriek ere the daybreak, being driven to madness with fright.
wizard nelson:
cool, thanks. that line
--- Quote ---Through the ghoul-guarded gateways of slumber
--- End quote ---
gives credence to this idea i had that cowl is Nyarlathotep as cowl controls ghouls. and Nyarlathotep is described as
--- Quote ---a "tall, swarthy man" who resembles an ancient Egyptian pharaoh.
--- End quote ---
keeper of the deathly sleeping great old ones. he who causes people to lose awareness of reality(nemesis infection?) and acts as a intermediary between deities and followers.(madrigal) obviously he can't be an outsider but what about an outside mantle? would explain his interest in defying death as he could then awaken cthulhu from his sleeping dead state.
wizard nelson:
one thing i wanted to mention about a starborn, lovecraft, outsider reference.
--- Quote ---A Great Old One's influence is often limited to the planet where it dwells. If it is based on a planet outside the solar system, it can only extend its influence to Earth when the star of its planetary system is in the night sky.
--- End quote ---
could harry have been born under the sign of Cthulhu as i was born a scorpio? :o (probably not Cthulhu, but tomato, uhhh tomato... lol)
elrond50:
--- Quote ---For this, I think you have to look at the philosophical make-up of Nemesis. It was her job to take entities down a peg. She was/is retribution for hubris. I think it's fair to say that the old pantheon as well as a significant number of other long ago Gods/ Goddesses would feel anger towards mortals (as an example) for the ease in which they turned away from them. There is obvious hubris in that. In truth, there has even been an active organization trying to assure that is the case ( The True Venatoris). I don't find it any stretch of the imagination to assume that even though Nemesis might not be at risk of being forgotten in total personally...there aren't quite a few Gods, Goddesses, gods, and goddesses who are approaching the cusp of banishment. Many more have already faced it. So, I don't think Nemesis would have to be an "Outsider" at all to perform as is her nature...especially since she probably was well familiar with many of the Gods, Goddesses, gods and goddesses that no longer exist in reality because mortals no longer recognize them personally or historically.
It would also explain how this war with the "Outsiders" has been going on forever.
--- End quote ---
I've wondered about the loss of worship and the Oblivion aspects for a bit. Maeve brought up Atlantis which, depending on the legends, went under the waters 12,000 years ago. So the fae remember the lost city but the Archive doesn't acknowledge their memories as part of the aspect of mortal knowledge. But what happens if solid proof of Atlantis popped up at sites like Gobekli Tepe or Nabta Playa? Does that restore erased aspects of the Archive?
On the worship front, I hold that people placing tattoos of ancient symbols counts towards energy of that pantheon. All those ankhs on people could be fueling an Egyptian pantheon revival. Isis may be returning.
GrandPanjandrum:
Exploring the possibility that the "Outsiders" are discarded minor deities, spirits, and regional/local entities of worship that have been cast out of reality due to a lack of any sort of recognition, one could extrapolate that the entities held on Demonreach are truly the most dangerous...and had they been cast out of reality to the plain of "empty night" where the war is going on, the "Outsiders" would be much stronger...and potentially, too strong. Instead of a hive mentality, they would have leaders, generals, and improved strategy. So, those held on Demonreach had to be kept separate.
Does that make any sense?
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