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The Aesir: Guardians of a previous age? (CD Spoilers)
rekshek:
--- Quote from: KevinSig on January 17, 2013, 01:05:01 PM ---Thing is, we might have already gotten some of this. From the way I interpret Cold Days, a lot of the older Gods are just masks for various Immortals. Heck, it wouldn't shock me if Mab was also Hera.
So, its possible that we might have seen more than we think, we just don't recognise them, because they're not wearing that particular immortal mask.
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Heimdal could be Mac, Freya might be Mab, highly doubt we have seen Vidarr.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on January 17, 2013, 06:51:01 AM ---Which WoJ is this?
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its not in the main list. there are a few versions of it.. Jim talks about the theory of the medium fish; that Harry will never be the 'big fish' even after becoming winter knight and warden, bit will remain the medium fish because even tho hes grown much stronger hes now swimming in a much bigger pond.
Jim then mentions he can now do the 'fun stuff'- like the classical greek gods.
in other words- things much stronger then before. weve allways known they were out there; Harry in PG lists several people who could smack Mab around like a tennis ball, and the greek gods were on that list.
which makes sense; I know how popular odin and thor are today (largely due to mass media) but "Odin" first shows up around 700 ad and is over by 1000 AD. Hist total worshippers, at their hieght, was only a few million.
Zeus shows up around 4,000 BCE, was well established around 2,000 BCE and had worshipers in the 50-60 million range. And its not like he's forgotten or anything.
pssst. The god in the greek robes with a giant white bushy beard floating on a cloud and throwing lightning at sinners?
It's Zeus
the christian idea of the holy trinity ( father, son, holy spirit) has a lot more to with the greco/roman idea of the Capitlone trinity ( zeus/ athena/ hera) then it does with Judaism. Not a big surprise, christianity was created by Roman educated scholars like Augustine, not by Hebrews.
and then there is the whole hindu connection...
--- Quote from: rekshek on January 17, 2013, 01:20:20 PM ---Heimdal could be Mac, Freya might be Mab, highly doubt we have seen Vidarr.
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Mac isnt a god, by WOJ. Mab is very likely the Jotun queen of winter, who Odin promised to wed then stole the mead of immortaltiy from.
wizard nelson:
--- Quote from: rekshek on January 17, 2013, 01:20:20 PM ---Heimdal could be Mac, Freya might be Mab, highly doubt we have seen Vidarr.
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was not mab wearing a cloak of feathers at harrys party in CD iirc? :o
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 17, 2013, 01:25:52 PM ---Mac isnt a god, by WOJ. Mab is very likely the Jotun queen of winter, who Odin promised to wed then stole the mead of immortaltiy from.
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but there is a whole host of other creatures out there that are not gods. what about a djinni? they are perfectly neutral and of course it would explain macs general lack of powers, he can't use them for himself... i DO NOT mean mac secretly lives in a lamp or beer bottle or some such though.
rekshek:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 17, 2013, 01:25:52 PM ---Mac isnt a god, by WOJ. Mab is very likely the Jotun queen of winter, who Odin promised to wed then stole the mead of immortaltiy from.
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He could still be Heimdal and not be a god, maybe someone stole all his mojo on Halloween but he somehow still retains the perk of not aging. Thus if as you propose the Aesir once watched the gate he knows the walker, because he was once "The Gatekeeper", and he is also out, because he lost all his powers and thus is just a mortal. Don't get me wrong, this is a massive WAG, but one I enjoy.
Also is this the WoJ in question?
Could MacAnally possibly be a son of Dionysus?
He's not a Greek god nor a scion of the gods, I'll tell you that much, but we will probably won't get to see much about MacAnally until the big trilogy at the end.
If so he could still be a Norse god.
Electric MacButters:
The arguement is that Mac was a god. Remember, Mac says "I'm out" and then later Odin reveals that it is possible to give up a mantle on certain confluxes.
The story I see goes like this: Ragnarok occurs, the guard changes and Heimdal finds himself out of a job. Unemployed, depressed, and Norwegian, Heimdal decides to deal with his midlife crisis by getting completely blotto for a few centuries/millenia. When he finally sobers up he decides to get his act together and do something productive in his retirement; forsaking his mantle and opening a bar in Chicago (possibly after power watching every episode of Cheers.) And if his chosen venue should happen to allow him to keep an eye on a certain starborn wizard, well...
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