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Motive for giving out black magic? [CD spoilers]

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Cenphx:

--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 01, 2013, 12:47:20 AM ---this would make sense if the wizard was in thrall to the outsdiers; otherwise, there is no rational gain.  ;D

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Oh, agreed. The wizard is a collaborator. Very very bad wizard.

Ms Duck:

--- Quote from: Cenphx on January 01, 2013, 12:53:56 AM ---Oh, agreed. The wizard is a collaborator. Very very bad wizard.

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so, why not the ussual suspect Cowl? Or the backup suspect Mavra?

(im still thinking Cowl is a patsie who will face heel turn; were overdue for that.)

I think youre trying to build a case for 'Elaine is an outsider agent' but the problem with that is she had so many oppurtunites to do damage to Harry and or recruit him I just dont see it..

KurtinStGeorge:
It is possible there was more than one motive each time the use of black magic was encouraged.  In SF there was the exploding heart curse, which seemed to be small version of the bloodline curse in Changes.  The purpose of the three-eye drug is a bit of a mystery, unless it was just a way to give Victor Sells more money.

The Hexen Wolf belts were given to FBI agents who had a strong desire to take out Johnny Marcone.  Why Marcone would be a target of the wizard handing out the belts is a mystery.  Maybe he was only a secondary target at that point.

Empowering Kravos and helping him turn himself in "The Nightmare" seemed aimed solely at Harry Dresden.  Yes, the ghost Kravos was gunning for everyone who helped take him down, but Harry was the individual who had gummed up the works in the first two books.  However, I suppose the idea of weakening the boundaries between the mortal world and the spirit world which we saw in GP may be related to the use of the darkhallow ritual in DB.  Specifically, perhaps weakening the boundaries to help Kravos cross over to get his revenge was a way of testing the kind of work Cowl did in DB to prepare for the darkhallow ritual.

KevinSig:
In some other thread I was recently reading, it's suggested that the point of Cold Days wasn't a prison break, but to steal all the mantle power, from the various immortals within.  Since it is Halloween, making that sort of thing possible.

Plus, the recent Red Court Death curse likely made the barrier between the real world & the never never get a tad thin.

I also recall that Harry said something to the effect that Karvos's attempts to thin the barrier paved the way to help the Kemmlerites perform the Darkhallow.

Maybe the point of the first few books is twofold, one a series of harassment campaigns against the barrier & what they are stated to be.

We know Aurora was infected, but she thought her actions were of her own design.  Ditto for Lea, I think.  Cat Sith too, before he was overpowered.

Maybe the Outsiders work through convoluted plots, because that's the only way they can push their agenda.  What was done with Cat Sith doesn't happen all that often, because usually the infection doesn't run that deep.

The fact that Cat Sith was likely infected by HWWBf might have something to do with it.


And yes, I think Victor might have been infected. There's a WOJ that Victor traded for extra power & how that worked.  It's a lot like the description of that coven from the short story Backup.

Arjan:
One motive for giving out black magic is to weaken the white council. Every sorcerer out there could have been a council wizard if the sorcerers did not got him first and corrupted him. And now the council has to spend resources hunting him down.

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