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The Leather Duster time travel theory
phoenixjustice:
--- Quote from: logistics on December 31, 2012, 08:04:18 PM ---Now that I think about it...the whole idea of mantles of power. It's got me thinking of an old series by Piers Anthony. The Incarnations of Immortality. The whole setup is similar - science/magic world, and mortals assume various Offices of power depending on the beliefs mortals have, the more believe, the more Power is vested in the Office. Wonder if I'm on to anything. Didn't Jim make some joke during his last online discussion thing that at least he's not having all his heroes related to one another - I think Anthony did that with the last book in that series. Nox?
Ah, I'm probably nuts.
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I've read that series! Also funny coincidence you bring it up because I was re reading info on it to refresh my memory of it. It gives an interesting interpretation of Satan.
hank213:
--- Quote from: logistics on December 31, 2012, 08:04:18 PM ---Now that I think about it...the whole idea of mantles of power. It's got me thinking of an old series by Piers Anthony. The Incarnations of Immortality. The whole setup is similar - science/magic world, and mortals assume various Offices of power depending on the beliefs mortals have, the more believe, the more Power is vested in the Office. Wonder if I'm on to anything. Didn't Jim make some joke during his last online discussion thing that at least he's not having all his heroes related to one another - I think Anthony did that with the last book in that series. Nox?
Ah, I'm probably nuts.
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Feist has done something similar with the pantheon of gods for his Magician series.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: logistics on December 31, 2012, 08:04:18 PM ---Now that I think about it...the whole idea of mantles of power. It's got me thinking of an old series by Piers Anthony. The Incarnations of Immortality. The whole setup is similar - science/magic world, and mortals assume various Offices of power depending on the beliefs mortals have, the more believe, the more Power is vested in the Office. Wonder if I'm on to anything. Didn't Jim make some joke during his last online discussion thing that at least he's not having all his heroes related to one another - I think Anthony did that with the last book in that series. Nox?
Ah, I'm probably nuts.
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well the famous one is by robert heinlien
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%22
later expanded on in a half dozen other of his books
logistics:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on December 31, 2012, 08:20:29 PM ---well the famous one is by robert heinlien
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%22
later expanded on in a half dozen other of his books
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Ah. I did guess Heinlein before thinking of Anthony, but I thought it might have something to do with Lazarus Long. Never read that particular short.
logistics:
I've been giving some thought on how this would all be accomplished, and I was going through Chapter 20 again to see if I missed anything good, and it looks like I did. Here's the opening to Chapter 20, immediately preceding the description I quoted earlier:
--- Quote ---I awoke in a dark place. It was like the inside of a warehouse, or a big, underground garage, all black, with a smooth, even floor, and a pool of bleak, sterile radiance in the middle of it that came from a source I could not see or identify. I felt like hell, and looked down to see myself covered in scratches, bruises, welts, blood, bandages, and ill-fitting clothing. I wore none of my implements or devices, and there was a curious distance between me and the pain of my injuries - I was more than aware of them, but they seemed to be something that was merely noted in passing, and unimportant to my life as a whole.
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This seems like another reference to Ghost Story. The Present Harry is plopped down suddenly bereft of all his magic implements, just the clothes on his back, and injuries he suddenly really doesn't notice anymore - and there is quite a catalog of them listed. This sounds like the residual self-image Harry ran into while in Ghost form, as well as the detachment from the pain. I think Neurovore might be on to something regarding the Never Never and dreams - maybe a pocket dimension similar to Bob's skull or perhaps Agatha Hagglethorn's burnt Chicago that Future Harry draws his past self into as it dreams in the Never Never? There is some sort of glowing circle on the floor that Harry has to cross before the figure is able to make contact. That might be some kind of summoning circle.
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