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finarvyn:
I see this law as being somewhat tricky, depending upon the style of the campaign.

Certainly, transforming someone against their will is a bad thing, the same way that trying to alter a person's thoughts against their will is a bad thing.

The grey area is this: what if a person wants to be transformed? I don't think that Harry has ever encountered such a thing, and in fact the werewolf belts from FOOL MOON give the impression that a person who is transformed may lose their sense of self. However, suppose a situation comes up where a character wants to be transformed for some reason? Perhaps the group needs a person to be able to fly to the top of a cliff to grab an item up there and a player volunteers to be turned into a large bird to accomplish the task?

I'm not saying that I would allow such an action in my Dresden campaign, but I really hate to fall back on the "sorry, but it's a rule" defense in order to dis-allow a clever action proposed by a player.

Just a thought....

Rel Fexive:
It seems to be much like the enthral Law; sure, you can do it, but the "protect the mind" part is probably the trickiest part and subject to all the dangers that are present when you try to "nicely" mind control someone, since that is in essence what you are doing.  You can't account for everything, and there's your unconscious issues to deal with too, so most wizardly types will be unable to do it right.  You'd probably get the enthralment backlash, too, and hence lawbreaker stunts and so forth.

So there are really two components to this: the mental damage you do indirectly by forcing someone (if the subject is unwilling) into a body not their own, and the damage you do by imperfectly "protecting" their mind while doing it.  Double trouble.

Relooc Reeb:
Ok maybe its just me but my first thought was about cosmetic changes.. is it illegal to make your girlfriend hotter? (with her permission/without?)  larger brests? smoother skin...removing scars.. whatever else but the modifications would be small to negligent in this as you are not actually changing it from what it is.. And what about changing yourself.. make yourself a little stronger.. faster.. Not inhumanly so.. but some people who dont normally work out much would probly not mind being even just in good shape. Now granted it would probly be better to use a temperary potion for the self improvments as anything other than temperary might be a slippery path down to dark magic ending with tenticals comming out of your head so you can hold your coffee as you type.

iago:

--- Quote from: Relooc Reeb on June 30, 2007, 11:30:32 AM ---Ok maybe its just me but my first thought was about cosmetic changes.. is it illegal to make your girlfriend hotter? (with her permission/without?)  larger brests? smoother skin...removing scars.. whatever else but the modifications would be small to negligent in this as you are not actually changing it from what it is.. And what about changing yourself.. make yourself a little stronger.. faster.. Not inhumanly so.. but some people who dont normally work out much would probly not mind being even just in good shape. Now granted it would probly be better to use a temperary potion for the self improvments as anything other than temperary might be a slippery path down to dark magic ending with tenticals comming out of your head so you can hold your coffee as you type.
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I think you just came up with a *fantastic* bad guy concept there. :)

Matrix Refugee (formerly Morraeon):

--- Quote from: Relooc Reeb on June 30, 2007, 11:30:32 AM ---Ok maybe its just me but my first thought was about cosmetic changes.. is it illegal to make your girlfriend hotter? (with her permission/without?)  larger brests? smoother skin...removing scars.. whatever else but the modifications would be small to negligent in this as you are not actually changing it from what it is.. And what about changing yourself.. make yourself a little stronger.. faster.. Not inhumanly so.. but some people who dont normally work out much would probly not mind being even just in good shape. Now granted it would probly be better to use a temperary potion for the self improvments as anything other than temperary might be a slippery path down to dark magic ending with tenticals comming out of your head so you can hold your coffee as you type.
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Personally, I think it would be a bad idea at best, a breach of the Third Law at worst. A person could get hooked on the transformations, the way people get hooked on plastic surgery and have themselves worked on to the point that they ruin their looks and/or their health.

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