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The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)
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--- Quote from: Cenphx on December 15, 2012, 07:33:46 AM ---The lulling to sleep part happens earlier in Changes when he finds Lea in his apartment. In the hardback edition its on page 107. Its chapter 15. What she actually says is that she lulls their predator spirit to sleep.
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--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on December 15, 2012, 07:30:39 AM ---EDIT: Damn ninjas.
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--- Quote from: kytheros on December 15, 2012, 07:29:44 AM ---Lea did that ... Changes, chapter 15.
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AHA! So it isn't explicitly stated to be a demon. It is their "predator spirit" (could be poetic)/Vamp part of them.
wizard nelson:
--- Quote from: Lord Rae on December 15, 2012, 07:49:38 AM ---I think if Maggie had anything it died off like the Jaguar men who were half vamps. They had lived a long long time though so when the spirit holding them up died they aged alot in a short time and died. Maggie is young and wasn't being kept alive by the predator spirit or whatever so she wasn't impacted by its removal. It's probably why she was asleep though.
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the curse killed the actual 'living' hunger demon. i'm trying, rather unsuccessfully, to get my theory across that since she possessed no actual entity there was nothing to kill, she could still be special though...
edit: i'd have to look for hours but i'm certain it calls it a demon somewhere in the series when harry and susan or martin talk about it
Cenphx:
Edit: on second thought, Im erasing my post here. I made my point clearly and theres no need to repeat it.
wizard nelson:
--- Quote from: Cenphx on December 15, 2012, 08:04:18 AM ---Edit: on second thought, Im erasing my post here. I made my point clearly and theres no need to repeat it.
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huh? never saw but oh well... still don't understand why some are confused... disagree yes... not get... no
kustenjaeger:
Greetings
While it is just possible the Eebs survived I wouldn't bet money on it. Ignoring the effects of the death curse before Harry and Susan left the Erlking's hall (Changes p315-6):
"Screams went up from the entire helpless Red Court crew as several hundred violence-amped goblins fell on them in a wave. I watched for a moment in sickened fascination, but turned away. ... Beneath the screams of the Red Court - Esmerelda's were especially piercing - a ragged chuckle ran through the hall."
On the other hand before the fight the Erlking did imply that the defeated participants would amuse his people while they lasted. (p302).
Regards
Edward
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