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The Red Court Lives....sort of (Spoilers Changes, GS, and CD)

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Orbweaver:

--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 15, 2012, 01:46:27 AM ---orbweaver, liverspots was fully human when he cast his death curse, albeit a weak pansy ass one... he was practitioner enough without the coin, so i don't think that counts as non human. a half blood like martin or even thomas might have one too if they knew magic. bianca was full vamp. pretty sure even denarian with a coin is still technically human anyway.

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I knew there was another case I was forgetting! Thanks, Tarion. Ebenezar did say Mavra was capable of one, I think during the course of Blood Rites or Dead Beat. Then again, Mavra has shown herself to be far from your typical newbie Black Court vampire.

Yes, Cassius was human when he threw the death curse- but the thing is, the Nickelheads are still human as well (though they have an extremely inhuman element riding shotgun). Again, how human is human?

madness:
Great theory.

I don't agree with it but it is still a great theory.  Well presented.

BTW, one of the comments here got me to thinking of the 'bursting forth' as metaphor for childbirth.

I have been having trouble figuring out why Lash would want to hurt Harry but if it is some sort of metaphysical process that she can not control and she is going to be split off from Harry (cutting the umbilical cord, so to speak) then I can see how the imagery and symbolism could fit.

wizard nelson:

--- Quote from: Tarion on December 15, 2012, 01:38:56 AM ---My issue here is that this theory completely discounts the actual headaches in the past.  In Turn Coat, his headaches have gotten so bad that Butters is trying to get him into an MRI machine.  In Cold Days, he says they've been growing "steadily worse" "over the past few years".  Harry certainly doesn't see this as a case of two different types of headaches, but as a continuation of the ones plaguing him. 
Ebenezar says Mavra can do one, since she has a wizard level talent.

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can you throw me a quote? don't own blood rites... :'(

kalinowt:
I think the parasite is Lash, or what is left of a reconstituted Lash at any rate. The Red Court that didn't die is likely the Ebes and all the RC shielded in the Erlking's domain. Just a guess, but I think they would have been protected from the curse there as they were not on Earth when the curse activated but in the Nevernever. I predict we'll see the Ebes again-- they are too good of villains for Jim not to use them again.

catnip13:
I think that there are surviving Red Court Vampires: Esteban and Esmerelda. They were protected in the Erlking's realm from the curse, and eventually they will work their way free.

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