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List of Headaches [CD spoilers]
syntagmaton:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on December 13, 2012, 09:56:34 PM ---in some ways, sure. but his spine? if it had failed, he would have instnatly hit the floor and splat. I think it was more a gentle reminder that she can unheal him, too.
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Well, he did instantly hit the floor, didn't he? Winter law seems to be some kind of natural law. There is nobody really there actively reminding you. Things just fall down without being reminded to do so. I don't believe Mab was actively involved reminding Harry of her power. Cause: The law itself was deactivated by Harry's remark (screw Winter). Effect: Mantel dissolved, Harry hits the floor.
Snaps At Fireflies:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on December 13, 2012, 09:51:53 PM ---if she didnt heal him, he couldnt stand. :)
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Exactly, this isn't The Dark Knight Rises, where they do Blunt Force Trauma Chiropractic treatment.
"Broken spine?" *punch* "Cured!!!" "Testicular cancer?" *punch* "Cured!!"
Mab's got way more power than that. Healing a mere mortal's damaged body is nothing to a creature at her level of Power
Snaps At Fireflies:
--- Quote from: syntagmaton on December 13, 2012, 10:06:10 PM ---Well, he did instantly hit the floor, didn't he? Winter law seems to be some kind of natural law. There is nobody really there actively reminding you. Things just fall down without being reminded to do so. I don't believe Mab was actively involved reminding Harry of her power. Cause: The law itself was deactivated by Harry's remark (screw Winter). Effect: Mantel dissolved, Harry hits the floor.
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Except that Winter is Mab. His mantle is Mab's power within him. As Maeve put it to Harry on the bridge, the power within him is Mab herself, which is why she is weak to him. He wasn't just saying "Screw Winter" he was saying "Screw Mab" because they are one in the same. By denying the rules that he was bound to through oath and fealty, (whether he understood this or not), his power through her would be denied him, and I don't see any reason he couldn't be reminded of this via a temporary paralysis reminder. Besides, as I said before, we have direct evidence that Winter Fae can, and have healed physical injuries on a mortal before, specifically Harry. So it stands to reason that a Fae with even more power than the one who healed him in the past, could heal him as part of a bargain. Harry in fact goes into great detail about how hard it is to heal someone via magic, and that it meant that Leah had a direct line of influence/power over him to be able to pull it off. By swearing fealty to Mab as her Knight, and boinking her on the table...well....that's about as "direct line of influence" as you can get
KurtinStGeorge:
I know I need to reread the book, but if the headaches started before Harry pick up the coin, maybe Lash isn't what is going to kill him, maybe its something else.
Cenphx:
--- Quote from: Snaps At Fireflies on December 13, 2012, 03:48:00 PM ---That's pretty much the most widely accepted theory on this forum. That Lash is still inside his head. I personally don't agree with it since it makes her entire Heroic Sacrifice in White Knight null and void, and I think from a storytelling standpoint that it's more moving to have the shadow of a fallen angel be redeemed through an act of Sacrifice for another. But hey, both theories are theories so we'll see when it gets published.
Actually to me personally it lines up more with what happened in Small Favor, when Mab stirred up Harry's brain. Because before that book, his comments about headaches were usually very minor mentions, frequently after being hit in the head by a badguy, and were as I like to call them, his Obligatory Head Trauma for the book. It's only in the beginning on Turn Coat that Harry takes the time out to really describe to the reader in intense detail that he is having mind numbing migraines that are causing him really really major problems. And IIRC he mentions that those level of migraines have only been going on for a few months. To me personally, all the mentions of headaches before could easily be attributed to the OHT of the book, or having his mind mucked about with by people like Corpsetaker.
And I seem to recall in one of the most recent Q&A's that Jim flat out says that "The Headaches" start at a very specific timepoint in the series. Which would imply that before that he was having your vanilla mortal headaches from stress, sleep deprivation, trauma, etc.
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I know we are about a bajillion messages past this one, but I just wanted to say, I think you are making an excellent couple of points.
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