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King Ash:
--- Quote from: madness on December 13, 2012, 10:40:55 AM ---One of the Archangels.
Michael (Archangel) is the one who approached Sanya about taking up a sword. So Uriel isn't the only Archangel who is active. My guess is that Uriel isn't the Archangel who is the will behind the Swords but we don't really have evidence in the text to support many theories.
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Raphael is also involved in that he warded the Carpenter's safe room.
I would guess that Uriel is not the being behind the swords, he is heavens spook, standing in the background making a small adjustment to make changes. Perhaps he is the one involved in manipulating chance so that the Knights are always where they need to be. The Knights are not spooks, they are The Almighty's Fist, standing on the front-line and bringing light to the darkness.
Raphael as the demon binder protects the families of the Knights, and Michael has given out at least one sword (to Sanya). Michael is the Prince of the Host and the Military leader of the angels, so he may have control over the Knights. Gabriel is the trumpeter who appears in a chorus of light, when Murphy draws the blade she gets covered in light changing her uniform and proclaims vengeance almighty on the LOoNs, so I think he is the best choice for who made the proclamation.
Ms Duck:
I do think it was Uriel in specific, just because the dialouge sounds like him. That, and I think the operation was his.. working with Mab? secret meetings? its all very cloak and dagger.
as to a sword to an archangel, its interesting, but im not sure. for one thing, there are three swords and four archangels. for annother, i still believe excalibur, at least, was created by Winter.
I dont think this is the first time the archangels and mab have worked together against a common foe. :)
knnn:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on December 13, 2012, 04:11:46 AM ---and no ammount of butterfly farts can make a blizzard in chciago in the summer. its simply impossible. you have to change the temperature of an enormous amount of air- and hold it against pressure forces- for months from the description. ill say it again, the figure for Mab is on the low side. its very conservative.
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Where does it say that Mab made a blizzard during the summer? SmF takes place in October.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: knnn on December 13, 2012, 02:57:29 PM ---Where does it say that Mab made a blizzard during the summer? SmF takes place in October.
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Ghost Story
major snow, in may, in chicago
just the ammount of energy needed to create that much temperature drop alone- not including the pressure containment- is huge. far greater than any nuclear blast ever created by man. and she kept it up for months.
there is simply no way this can be any kind of domino effect. there are several ways she could have accomplished this ( bringing in cold air from the NN, etc..) but i honestly think she just willed it to become colder, much like odin willed harry not to get up. this would explain why the effect was limited only to the chicago region, and not the entire hemisphere as would have been caused by some sort of domino effect.
for example: lets say she used a small ammount of power to trigger volcanoes in the south pacific. that would have vented tons of ash into the atmosphere, thus cooling the waters, thus diverting the water flow. thus, instant mini ice age. its happened before, and could be done with far less energy.
but, just like prior mini ice ages, it would have changed the climate for much of the planet.
to change the climate over a multi state region, but only that region? that requires something containing the effect. Like Harry talking about summoning fire, you have to aim and channel things.
Mab not only was dropping the equivalent of a nuke an hour, she was also stabalizing the area outside the blast zone so that it didnt permantly change the climate for the entire continent.
no matter which way you look at it, its impressive as hell. and far more than any mortal wizard could ever do.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on December 13, 2012, 03:33:18 PM ---Ghost Story
major snow, in may, in chicago
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Found this:
Snowfall in May is not that unusual in Chicago, having occurred in nearly 25 percent (30 out of 126) of the Mays here since 1885. In most instances the snow has not been measurable, falling as rain mixed with snow or a few flurries. Only eight Mays have produced measurable snow, most recently 0.5 inch May 6, 1989.
So snow is not *that* crazy if it can happen without magic. So all Mab has to do is recreate the conditions that caused the snow (e.g. bring up a cold front just in time to hit some clouds coming from the east). Can she do it slowly over the course of 6 months (since Harry was killed)? I'd say probably yes, and without the equivalent of a magical nuke, just need to modify a few air currents at the right time. i.e. "flapping wings".
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