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Second Aristh:
Yay for pancakes and covering spaces ;D
But you did lose me with the jello

Ms Duck:

--- Quote from: Elegast on December 12, 2012, 11:37:37 PM ---What did she say?

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that magical energy was conserved, as per physics.. it could niether be created or destroyed.

i suspect that when people metabolize food, they release some 'magica' in the way of felelings or faith but conatin most of it as a 'reserve' and thats what the soul is made of.

peregrine:
Matter has a lot of energy, it's just mostly bound up in being physical.  When we release that energy, or even a fraction of it, we get nuclear blasts.  I would argue that soul energy is a similar thing.

Especially since conservation of energy is still in effect, bringing things from Outside just stops the equation from being a closed system, in the same way as fueling a car, or the sun radiating on a photocell.

I do question your numbers about Mab and her power levels though.  We saw her bring snow to Chicago out of season, but that took a LOT out of her, and while it's large in relation to things like your average vegetable garden, it's still small in relation to actual weather, like cold fronts, hurricanes, and so on.

(also, technically that's the ability to control weather, not climate.  Weather is snow, rain, clouds; climate is temperate, desert, arctic, subtropical, etc...  Pedantry ho!)

We saw her and Titania start moving massive air fronts, but I don't know if we have any way of determining what power was involved with that, it could have been a pebble=landslide thing.  Wheras the snow was out of season, and more likely to require a more brute force application.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Elegast on December 12, 2012, 11:29:22 PM ---insane theory 1:: the conservation of energy is not respected  ;D.
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Of course it isn't. :D The prisoners under Demonreach oozing energy without any way of there own to refuel kind of indicates that (unless it turns out that the older prisoners are basically powerless due to oozing power for so long) it isn't an absolute.


--- Quote ---I do question your numbers about Mab and her power levels though.  We saw her bring snow to Chicago out of season, but that took a LOT out of her, and while it's large in relation to things like your average vegetable garden, it's still small in relation to actual weather, like cold fronts, hurricanes, and so on.
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Wasn't it the being in the mortal world out of season that took a lot out of her rather than the weather changing?

Ms Duck:

--- Quote from: peregrine on December 13, 2012, 12:29:20 AM ---Matter has a lot of energy, it's just mostly bound up in being physical.  When we release that energy, or even a fraction of it, we get nuclear blasts.  I would argue that soul energy is a similar thing.

Especially since conservation of energy is still in effect, bringing things from Outside just stops the equation from being a closed system, in the same way as fueling a car, or the sun radiating on a photocell.

I do question your numbers about Mab and her power levels though.  We saw her bring snow to Chicago out of season, but that took a LOT out of her, and while it's large in relation to things like your average vegetable garden, it's still small in relation to actual weather, like cold fronts, hurricanes, and so on.

(also, technically that's the ability to control weather, not climate.  Weather is snow, rain, clouds; climate is temperate, desert, arctic, subtropical, etc...  Pedantry ho!)

We saw her and Titania start moving massive air fronts, but I don't know if we have any way of determining what power was involved with that, it could have been a pebble=landslide thing.  Wheras the snow was out of season, and more likely to require a more brute force application.

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my numbers for mab are based on the idea that she covered all of the chicago region in snow in the middle of summer. that requires an enormous amount of power- more I figure, then contained in a similar storm during winter. so if my numbers off, its on the conservative side. The figure is from a governemnt website esstimating the ammount of power, per second , contained in a major blizzard.

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