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wyltok:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on December 16, 2012, 01:42:30 AM ---hmm new woj..
--- Quote ---Jim: 3) Everything revolves around /this/ earth, in the Dresden stories. But not necessarily around all (or even a majority of) the other earths that exist in the continuum of possibility created by free will. Other, parallel realities have other worlds playing a more central role, and some of them have earth in a nice quiet backwater, peaceful, relatively conflict free, and boring.
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so while worlds remain at the center of the NN, its not allways the same world? innnnteresssting...
thats how the outsiders are getting here :)
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I'm afraid I don't follow. Mind expanding a bit?
Ms Duck:
Ok.. the DF earth is at the center of the NN
but in some alternate universe, the center of the NN is not the earth, its another planet.
mars? qunos? who knows?
but thats how the aliens are getting here.. not traveling thru space, because the magic doenst go that far..
wyltok:
So your suggestion is that Outsiders are merely aliens from others planets in other alternate universes, who use some sort of connection between their Never Never and ours to reach our Earth because although their planet and ours don't share the same geographic location, they share the same symbolic "Center of the Universe" location?
Unless Outsiders come from an alternate universe made of anti-matter and/or a galaxy of said alternate universe made of the same (since current science can't tell which of the galaxies out there are matter vs. antimatter), it certainly wouldn't explain the properties of Mordite. Also, it doesn't really explain why they are so hard to affect with magic, if they are so symbolically linked to us.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: wyltok on December 17, 2012, 04:59:59 PM ---So your suggestion is that Outsiders are merely aliens from others planets in other alternate universes, who use some sort of connection between their Never Never and ours to reach our Earth because although their planet and ours don't share the same geographic location, they share the same symbolic "Center of the Universe" location?
Unless Outsiders come from an alternate universe made of anti-matter and/or a galaxy of said alternate universe made of the same (since current science can't tell which of the galaxies out there are matter vs. antimatter), it certainly wouldn't explain the properties of Mordite. Also, it doesn't really explain why they are so hard to affect with magic, if they are so symbolically linked to us.
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well i doubt they are antimatter. they dotn explode, and neither do we. more like 'skewed magic'- they come from a world that has a very different form of magical energy then we do.
they eveolved in a different way, from a markedly different environment.
wyltok:
You're basically suggesting that Outsiders come from a place more stable (for lack of a better term) than the Never Never. Maybe it's my reading of the Ender's Game series of books (and Homestuck), but I always pictured Outside as being less stable than the Never Never, rather than your current conjecture. I always saw Outside as being those aspects of reality that exist outside of space-time.
On the other hand, if you're right and Outsiders come from a place that has a parallel in our Universe, it might explain why a particular conjunction of stars could impact a human's magic to create an Outsiderbane.
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