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[CD spoilers] Mother Winter, the Blackstaff, Death and the Raven Banner
Cenphx:
A raven or crow is more than affiliated with death or a symbol thereof; its considered a psychopomp or a being which helps guide the way between the land of the living and the land of the dead. Which makes it interesting that Harry saw the crow two different times on his way to MW's house in SK. Also, regarding the iron teeth and shears, what if Death is another mantle and when MW took it up she became more than just fae with fae limitations.
Elegast:
--- Quote from: Cenphx on December 07, 2012, 12:52:57 AM ---A raven or crow is more than affiliated with death or a symbol thereof; its considered a psychopomp or a being which helps guide the way between the land of the living and the land of the dead. Which makes it interesting that Harry saw the crow two different times on his way to MW's house in SK.
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Good catch!
And Harry is actually guided by the raven toward Mother Winter's cottage:
--- Quote ---Then we both started off after the raven.
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So that would fit really well.
Vairelome:
--- Quote from: Elegast on December 07, 2012, 12:50:23 AM ---Her knight was stupid enough to lose her stick, she was so disgusted by those mortals she subcontracted the whole thing to Mab.
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Possible, but note the WoJ concerning the Blackstaff--"Also, the White Council stole it from someone. And they really want it back." Assuming that Mother Winter was the original owner of the Blackstaff, this does not necessarily say that the White Council stole it from her, just that they stole it from the immediately-preceding owner, who may or may not have been Mother Winter.
That said, the second sentence, combined with Mother Winter's crankiness about the pain of walking without her stick, does suggest a direct connection.
Elegast:
--- Quote from: Vairelome on December 07, 2012, 01:01:06 AM ---Possible, but note the WoJ concerning the Blackstaff--"Also, the White Council stole it from someone. And they really want it back." Assuming that Mother Winter was the original owner of the Blackstaff, this does not necessarily say that the White Council stole it from her, just that they stole it from the immediately-preceding owner, who may or may not have been Mother Winter.
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Yes. If the Blackstaff is linked to the raven banner, it was lost on the field, which seems more credible than the WC taking it directly from Mother Winter, as the whole WC is approximatively at Mab's level, and Mother Winter is far more powerful than Mab.
It may be the reason why she hasn't taken it back: it's has been taken through death and battle, so maybe the WC "earned" it in some strange value system.
jyn8462:
--- Quote from: Dust Bunny on December 07, 2012, 12:12:55 AM ---You do present a good argument for MW not being Fae in some sense, or for the office of Winter's Eldest being like the office of Knight (in that Harry can handle iron, he only has problems if it penetrates his skin).
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I feel it should be said that the knights have to be mortals, that's the point, that is why Harry can handle Iron. If the mantle of Mother Winter had been passed to a mortal, say to a changeling then that person would have gotten transformed into a fey
(click to show/hide)Just like Mab was, since she said at the end of Cold Days she once was a mortal, and we know she hates the touch of iron the way all fey do
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