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[CD spoilers] Small Favor
Elegast:
--- Quote from: Silkki on December 04, 2012, 12:33:24 AM ---Do we know that Ivy was not infected? I mean she did hint to Harry right way in Changes, breaking neutrality just a bit. Slowly being corrupted and granting Ivy ability to take active role in matters of great importance. (Going against her nature of staying neutral)
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It's impossible to know. But they had her imprisoned for a short time and she helped Harry in Changes.
Silkki:
--- Quote from: Blackblade on December 04, 2012, 12:34:48 AM ---That seemed more like Ivy rebelling against the Archive.
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Yeah it did. Ivy being a player even on her own is pretty cool, but she might be quite restricted on how much she is able to act. With help from Nemesis she might be able to actually kick some major ass. So here goes hoping that one more young damsel is in trouble and that next time we see her she has grown to be hot, 19 years old superpower with free will, and a huge dilemma with a evil parasite she needs help with.
--- Quote from: Elegast on December 04, 2012, 12:36:56 AM ---It's impossible to know. But they had her imprisoned for a short time and she helped Harry in Changes.
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Yes, and thus going against her nature ; )
xakko:
--- Quote from: GrandPanjandrum on December 04, 2012, 12:27:51 AM ---Not so much idiocy, but dysfunction. That comment in Cold Days about Titania and Mab not talking since before Hastings comes into play. They don't communicate AT ALL. And, I get the impression that Mab has finally realized the weakness and vulnerablity this creates and seeks to remedy it. Getting rid of Maeve because of her infection is one thing, but replacing her with a bundle of emotional nerves (Sarissa) seems to be an olive branch to Titania, or an invitation to open a dialogue. Instead, Sarissa ends up in Summer, and Molly is in the role. And, it's just as well due to her own emotional nature. Summer is all about emotion. Winter...pragmatism.
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Titania had cause to go after the murderer of her daughter (by Harry being emissary). this is before Eldest Gruff (or was it Elder Gruff) prevailed on her that it was necessary. She took the shot.
--- Quote from: Silkki on December 04, 2012, 12:33:24 AM ---Do we know that Ivy was not infected? I mean she did hint to Harry right way in Changes, breaking neutrality just a bit. Slowly being corrupted and granting Ivy ability to take active role in matters of great importance. (Going against her nature of staying neutral)
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Infected Ivy? :o Oh crap.
Orbweaver:
--- Quote from: Blackblade on December 04, 2012, 12:34:48 AM ---That seemed more like Ivy rebelling against the Archive.
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The problem is that in giving Ivy her own identity, he made it possible for Nemesis to amplify the use of her Free Will over the Will of the Archive.
Remember what happened to Mother Winter when she tried to pin Harry down using only her will? It's the same thing... only about a thousand times worse, because Ivy's wishes are not always going to be in line with the Archive's. If any of the Denarians who captured her was corrupted by Nemesis (and I think there's a large likelihood that Namshiel or Rosanna probably were/are), there's a *high* chance that Ivy has Nemesis inside her. Provided that Nemesis uses Ivy to act against the Archive's wishes, the Archive cannot act to override Ivy's free will. It can offer a strong emphasis on what she should do, but that's it.
One other thing to remember about Mab: She only has so many resources. Most of them are committed to the fight at the Gates, but she also has to keep a few at the home base (in case of something like Summer fire being poured into Winter's Wellspring or an uprising like the one Lea tried). The hobs might have been all she could spare to tip someone off that Nemesis was up and running.
Elegast:
--- Quote from: Orbweaver on December 04, 2012, 12:44:40 AM ---One other thing to remember about Mab: She only has so many resources. Most of them are committed to the fight at the Gates.
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Absolutely. That's the key factor in Small Favor: Mab was almost powerless, with all her minions unavailable.
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