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[CD spoilers] Cowl = Simon reference thread
wizard nelson:
why wouldn't you believe him? he's evil, plenty of evil without nemesis. don't make him stupid
Arjan:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 16, 2012, 12:23:02 PM ---why wouldn't you believe him? he's evil, plenty of evil without nemesis. don't make him stupid
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We know Cowl is not stupid.
I would not believe everything Cowl says. He has a cover to maintain. The white court coup was clearly an attempt to place an infected vittorio as the head of the white court. Lash said he was possessed by an outsider. Judging him by what he does and not by what he said I say outsider infected.
123456789blaaa:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on December 16, 2012, 12:54:15 AM ---Cowl also implies that he usually had to do the hard work instead of Corpsetaker or Grevane when he released the Erlking from Harry's trap.
I wouldn't be so sure that Grevane and Corpsetaker weren't SC level. They were stronger than Harry one-on-one, and it didn't seem that they were pulling out all the stops. Do we have a better way to measure the difference between Harry's strength and a low-end SC member's strength?
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How does him doing all the hard work make him a kemmlerite? He could simply be a normal wizard using necromancy.
I'm really really sure Corpsetaker isn't SC level. Heck, in GS MOLLY was able to hold her off for a pretty significant amount of time. Remember that mind magic is Corpsetakers speciality and we know that SC wizards are super awesome in their areas of speciality (Eb is a direct combat specialist and he was able to cause a freakin earthquake. The Merlin is a ward specialist and he was able to create a ward that held of the ENTIRE Red Court (If I'm remembering correctly) ). Molly should have been squished in an instant.
We saw that Grevane was charging into battle against Corpsetaker (and she against him) so they clearly thought they could beat each other.
--- Quote from: Arjan on December 16, 2012, 12:33:47 PM ---We know Cowl is not stupid.
I would not believe everything Cowl says. He has a cover to maintain. The white court coup was clearly an attempt to place an infected vittorio as the head of the white court. Lash said he was possessed by an outsider. Judging him by what he does and not by what he said I say outsider infected.
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I don't see why Cowl can't be infected and be trying to do what he thinks is good at the same time. We saw that Auora was infected and she clearly thought she was doing good. Sure Cowl isn't as insane as her but we've seen that their are varying degrees of infection (cat sith was completely infected for example).
wizard nelson:
i find it interesting harry later mirrors cowl pondering his own sanity in his office
Arjan:
--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on December 17, 2012, 04:34:57 AM ---I don't see why Cowl can't be infected and be trying to do what he thinks is good at the same time. We saw that Auora was infected and she clearly thought she was doing good. Sure Cowl isn't as insane as her but we've seen that their are varying degrees of infection (cat sith was completely infected for example).
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He might think he is doing the good thing if that makes him easier to manage by the outsiders but that does not matter for what he does. For what makes him act.
It is like mind magic. The smart thing is to change just enough so the subject will do what you want him to do. Outright possession is always less efficient and is only to be expected when other options fail.
But the motivations of the infected, the things that really make him move, are the motivations of the outsider managing the infection not the delusions used to keep him under control.
So watch cowls actions, not his words, to see what really makes him move.
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