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[CD spoilers] Cowl = Simon reference thread
Mortax:
...assuming he leveled his DC, yep, sounds about right. :)
BOOM. lol
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Mortax on January 15, 2013, 03:14:31 PM ---...assuming he leveled his DC, yep, sounds about right. :)
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I could also entirely believe Simon rigging his fortress to blow, with the intent of then disappearing, and the Council taking it for granted it was a death curse. If you look at the scenes in laFortier's room in TC, the Council's very best people are stretched to their limits to get really rather little information out of a crime scene in an environment over which they have complete control; even if they are going to risk sending their best investigators into a war zone, I don't believe they'd be able to get anywhere near so much information out of the remains of Archangel.
peregrine:
But the very particular informationt they're trying to get is incredibly hard to find in any situation at all. It's the difference between figuring out where someone was shot from, what the height of the shooter was, what the powder load was, and maybe trying to pull a fingerprint from the mangled bullet, and if someone got shot at all.
psuliin:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 15, 2013, 02:29:59 PM ---My bet here is that Simon's "death curse" looked like a major explosion followed by collapse of his fortress, and there was no checking for his body without moving hundreds of tons of rubble.
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I think the White Council would do that if they had to. If Simon were taken alive by the Red Court and turned then the damage to the Council would be incalculable. They simply had to verify that he was dead, or find him if he was not.
But there's reason to believe that this didn't happen. In Summer Knight we find a description of the aftermath of Archangel.
"The Wardens said that they couldn't be sure, but it looked like someone let the killers in past the defenses. They didn't get away unscathed. There were the remains of half a dozen nobles of the Red Court. Many of their warriors. But they killed Simon and the rest."
The only way they could get a description like this would be if they could go in and see for themselves. WoJ confirms this, talking about the effects of a death curse: "See what happened to all the vampires around Simon when they assaulted his compound immediately prior to the onstage events in Summer Knight." (emphasis added) It certainly sounds as though the effects of Simon's death curse could be seen by someone. It even suggests that his body was actually there. But if it was not then the White Council would still have to verify his death one way or another before they could sleep at night.
phoenixjustice:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 15, 2013, 02:29:59 PM ---My bet here is that Simon's "death curse" looked like a major explosion followed by collapse of his fortress, and there was no checking for his body without moving hundreds of tons of rubble.
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--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on January 15, 2013, 05:23:53 PM ---I could also entirely believe Simon rigging his fortress to blow, with the intent of then disappearing, and the Council taking it for granted it was a death curse. If you look at the scenes in laFortier's room in TC, the Council's very best people are stretched to their limits to get really rather little information out of a crime scene in an environment over which they have complete control; even if they are going to risk sending their best investigators into a war zone, I don't believe they'd be able to get anywhere near so much information out of the remains of Archangel.
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EXACTLY! I couldn't have elaborated better myself! Those are big things for me, in the Simon is Cowl argument. I don't think it possible that the Council would or could afford to spend time or wizards they need on the front lines and/or elsewhere in the War, looking at something which obviously seemed to be Simon using his Death Curse at Archangel and making sure that Simon and others were dead. From the ruins/rubble and everything, everything seemed to give indication of so, so why spend the time/effort that they DID NOT HAVE in confirming it?
They were already frantic, after all. Dealing with a huge war and an obvious traitor in their midst, though they didn't know where to look for the traitor.
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