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--- Quote from: Aein on January 10, 2013, 04:57:10 AM ---This doesn't exactly make sense to me. To me, this argument assumes that we've seen every human SC-level wizard in the Dresdenverse, and that because we've seen them all, Cowl must therefore be one of them. That's a pretty big assumption, with no support to back it up, especially given Harry's notoriety for unreliable narration. A wizard of SC-level skill could easily hide their existence from others if he or she so chose.

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I think this bears repeating. I love Simon=Cowl but the OP makes a somewhat baffling assumption. Elegast, could you present your rational? 

madness:

--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on January 13, 2013, 11:15:11 PM ---I think this bears repeating. I love Simon=Cowl but the OP makes a somewhat baffling assumption. Elegast, could you present your rational?

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I don't see how it would be easy for a White Council trained wizard to live 250-300 years while amassing such skill and power without his peers (similarly old and powerful wizards) knowing about him.

It is sort of like having some super duper movie assassin pop-up that no one knows about.  The odds are really, really good that they had serious military training at some point. 

They can probably physically hide but they can't hide their identity (if they walk around with no disguise) because the community is just too small and the skillset is just too unique.  Someone in the community will recognize them.

Harry and Elaine are really the only examples of White Council educated wizards that we who were not known to the White Council during their apprenticeships.  Even Kemmler's disciples were known to the White Council (and if I had to guess I would say that they were actual members who defected or were corrupted).

madness:
If Cowl isn't Simon then it seems likely that he is either some long retired wizard that has disappeared or that he was some young wizard that the Fomor abducted/recruited and who has been presumed dead for a very long time.

phoenixjustice:

--- Quote from: madness on January 14, 2013, 02:20:36 AM ---I don't see how it would be easy for a White Council trained wizard to live 250-300 years while amassing such skill and power without his peers (similarly old and powerful wizards) knowing about him.

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Oh no, it's definitely possible; Aizen in Bleach held back how powerful he truly was for hundreds of years without being detected. I would think it most definitely be possible, especially if they are noted to be powerful, like Simon. Aizen was so powerful, he was able to trick some of the most powerful characters with illusions that they couldn't even detect them until he pointed them out. I think Simon just chose to leave when it was time/the opportunity presented itself and/or something came up, like a plan beginning/starting to come to fruition.

psuliin:
One more piece of evidence that Cowl = SP: Cowl seems to be closely and recently acquainted with the wardens and how they feel about Dresden. That implies someone either on the Senior Council, very close to the SC, a leader of the wardens, or some combination of the three. Simon Petrovich fits all of those parameters.

There are two points that I think may make this theory less certain, however.

First, while the wizards listed in the OP are the only SC-level wizards named in the novels so far, LTW clearly indicated that there were several others who might have been tapped to the Senior Council. Whether any of those have the contacts with the Wardens necessary to say some of the things Cowl has said is unknown.

Second, I think several things suggest that Simon Petrovich's body was found at Archangel. WoJ talked about the vampires found "around Simon," seemingly destroyed by his death curse. And also if his body had NOT been found then I think that would have been noteworthy. I certainly wouldn't presume that a member of the Senior Council was dead until I saw the body (and maybe not even then), and I don't think other members of the SC would do so either. Even more important though, if Simon's body had NOT been found then one obvious possibility would be that the Reds had taken him alive. And that would be a top-priority emergency for the Senior Council, due to the possibility of Simon being turned and converted into a member of the Red Court. That would be a disaster. The fact that this never came up leads me to think that Simon's body was found at Archangel.

Now, another poster suggested that Simon/Cowl could have died and then used Corpsetaker-style body-jumping to escape. But if he did that then how did his new body sustain the serious injuries that we believe he suffered?

On balance, I think the weight of evidence is slightly in favor of the theory, but some questions do remain.

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