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[CD spoilers] Corruption WAG
Elegast:
--- Quote from: Serack on November 29, 2012, 03:38:25 PM ---I don't have the books on me ATM, but my memory of what Lash said near the end of WN is a part of my paradigm of how magic works where it is a rewriting of reality and that the outsiders coming from a seperate reality have an advantage in rewriting ours, thus making them harder to work magic on. Somehow Harry's Starborn status serves as a potential effective counter for this.
An attempt at an explenation: Starborn means he is more magically in tune with the entire universe/reality?
Time to reread the 2 encounters with HHWB4's mind wammy to see how Harry countered them, as well as the time in WN.
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Here it is:
--- Quote ---Lasciel squared her shoulders and straightened. "You're right," she said. "It is my choice. Listen to me." She leaned closer, her eyes intent. "Vittorio has been given power. That is how he can do this. He is possessed."
I wished I could have raised my eyebrows. Possessed by what?
"An Outsider," Lasciel said. "I have felt such a presence before. This attack is drawn directly from the mind of the Outsider."
Gosh, that was interesting. Not relevant, but interesting.
"It is relevant," Lasciel said, "because of the circumstances of your birth—because of why you were born, Harry. Your mother found the strength to escape Lord Raith for a reason."
What the hell was she talking about?
Thud-thump: 1:26.
"There was a complex confluence of events, of energies, of circumstances that would have given a child born under them the potential to wield power over Outsiders."
Which didn't make any sense. Outsiders were all but immune to magic. It took power garnered only from centuries of study and practice, wielded by the most powerful wizards on the planet, even to slow them down.
"Strange, then, don't you think, that you defeated one when you were sixteen years old?"
What? Since when? The only serious victory I'd had over a spiritual entity when I was that young had been when my old master had sent an assassin demon after me. It hadn't turned out the way DuMorne had been hoping.
Lasciel leaned closer. "He Who Walks Behind is an Outsider, Harry. A terrible creature, the most potent of the Walkers, a powerful knight among their ruling entities. But when he came for you, you overthrew him."
True. I had. It was all still a little blurry, but I remembered the end of the fight well enough. Lots and lots of kaboom, and then no more demon. And there was a burning building.
Thud-thump: 1:25.
"Listen," Lasciel said, giving my head a little shake. "You have the potential to hold great power over them. You may be able to escape the power now held over you. If you are sure it is what you want, I can give you an opportunity to defy Malvora's sending. But you'll have to hurry. I don't know how long it will take to throw it off, and they are almost upon you."
After which, we were going to have a long talk about my mother and these Outsiders and their relation to the Black Court and exactly what the hell was going on.
Lasciel—Lash, rather—nodded once and said, "I will tell you all that I can, Harry."
Then she rose and stepped past me and toward the oncoming ghouls and Vitto Malvora. Her clothes made a slow, soft rustle as she stepped away from me, and Marcone's stopwatch went thud—
Tick, tick, tick . . .
For just a second, no more than a heartbeat or two, I remained impaled on that horrible pike of psychic anguish. Then an odd sensation fell over me, and I don't know precisely how to describe it, except to say that it felt like stepping from brutal, burning sunlight into a sudden, deep shadow. Then that horrible pain eased—not much, but enough to let me suddenly move my arms and my head, enough to know that I could act.
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Paladino:
I liked the WaG, especially the 7 law and merlin, and if you think that it was an artifact used by a mortal (Morgan Le'Fay) that corrupted the Lea and Maeve it gives even more strengh to this idea. We only got learn what corrupted Aurora..
knnn:
--- Quote from: Serack on November 29, 2012, 02:15:18 PM ---By the way, I know the term "BC" has a lot of momentum, but I'm pretty confident the term is entirely inaccurate, and way way to narrow. I think Harry even says as much in CD. I might come back to this with a topic.
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Fair enough. Replace that with "Outsiders"
--- Quote from: Serack on November 29, 2012, 02:15:18 PM ---I like your "Super Duper" WAG, but it's too speculative to throw support behind :) I love seeing things like this though, because I feel kinda incapable of posting theories that I haven't hashed out rampart like support for.
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Yeah, I personally give the full theory about 10% chance of being right (and hence all the WAG warning tags). Still, does seem to reasonably fit everything we know, and is internally consistent so I thought I'd throw it out there.
Besides, who knows, maybe someone will find more evidence for it, or maybe someone will ask Jim a leading question based on this...
knnn:
--- Quote from: Serack on November 29, 2012, 03:38:25 PM ---An attempt at an explenation: Starborn means he is more magically in tune with the entire universe/reality?
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OOOHHHH... Just had another cool idea.
Remember my old "Entropy Curse reaches back in time to achieve desired effect " theory? Combine this with Odin's description of what happens when you change time (parallel universe) and the fact that Maggie was killed by an Entropy Curse, and maybe this means that Harry is already slightly "out of tune" with the universe, and hence better able to deal with other-reality creatures.
Elegast:
--- Quote from: Elegast on December 07, 2012, 10:01:15 PM ---That's... a really great idea! And it made me realize something that should have been obvious: if Knnn's theory that that the Laws of Magic exist to prevent Outsiders from gaining influence, then Harry, who has a special immunity to Outsider mental attacks, may be able to violate the Laws without becoming mad! A living Blackstaff!
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