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CD Spoilers: The Case of the Stolen Walking Stick
Ezakra:
The Iron teeth are a givaway, as is the cleaver.
"In Russian folklore there are many stories of Baba Yaga, the fearsome witch with iron teeth."
look in http://www.oldrussia.net/baba.html
plus numerous other sources
No info on the staff though, she always lived in a cabin in the woods, but it spun around on chicken legs...
Ezakra:
The issue I keep running into is that 1064-1066 was during the "Historical Cycle" of Irish mythology and most of the documentation I have found deals with the disgrace and death of Donnchad mac Briain and the power grab by his successor, which effectively ended the power of the High King in Ireland. Not finding references to Faerie, though there is a lot in the Ulster and Fenian cycles, but they were around the birth of Christ through the 400's, outside of the date range we were given. I looked through them anyway,trying to find any woman wielding a staff at all, but I did not have the gumption to go over the translated texts, just looked at synopsis.
There seems to be an association with "Anann" an aspect of a tripartite goddess of death destructions and such, called "Morrigan" who has a few websites devoted to her current worship (?!?) :o
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Ezakra on December 02, 2012, 06:43:28 PM ---The issue I keep running into is that 1064-1066 was during the "Historical Cycle" of Irish mythology and most of the documentation I have found deals with the disgrace and death of Donnchad mac Briain and the power grab by his successor, which effectively ended the power of the High King in Ireland. Not finding references to Faerie, though there is a lot in the Ulster and Fenian cycles, but they were around the birth of Christ through the 400's, outside of the date range we were given. I looked through them anyway,trying to find any woman wielding a staff at all, but I did not have the gumption to go over the translated texts, just looked at synopsis.
There seems to be an association with "Anann" an aspect of a tripartite goddess of death destructions and such, called "Morrigan" who has a few websites devoted to her current worship (?!?) :o
--- End quote ---
why yes, under various names Mab is still worshipped. :)
as to mother winter, I see her more as Hela/ Lovitar/ Atrops/ Skuld... the final fate, death.
Esa:
Ezakra: Based on WoJ that we need to look in Celtic lore for the staff, I'm betting MW holds mantles/masks of both Baba Yaga (Russian) and the Cailleach (Celtic), as they are often compared by scholars of mythology anyway and their mythsseem to have borrowed from each other.
Then again, I've been thinking that WoJ only says we can find out how the WC got the blackstaff by looking in Celtic lore in 1065. This does not necessarily mean that this is when MW lost her walkingstick. Could be that she lost it to Arthur/Merlin, it was passed down through Arthur's (supposed) line, and the WC got hold of it in one of the weapons raids pre battle of Hastings.
Lastly, putting in my 2 cents on a few things:
Just because she now wants it back does not mean MW did not orchestrate it being passed to wizards in the first place.
The heist won't be getting the staff back. I think we'll see it again/learn more about it before MW gets it back.
Ezakra:
Immortals seem to change roles and mantles as Odin/Kringle described fairly regularly, so Yes, I can easily see MW was Baba Yaga, and Atropos as well as Annan (sorry Ducky, ment MW not Mab, are you suggesting that Mab is currently worshipped as an aspect of Morrigan? That would be really interesting from a RL perspective, though may not inform Jim's writing).
I find it interesting that figures, perhaps in an effort to combat the Oblivion War and the Mistress who runs the war, jump from Mantle to Mantle based on what is believed in at the time.
/Love/ the line " Mab is too much the romantic." I LOLed after that for a while... :)
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