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CD Spoilers: The Case of the Stolen Walking Stick
Autra:
--- Quote from: The Rat Mage on November 28, 2012, 07:27:22 AM ---A huge theme in this book was that the Sidhe are titanically powerful, and we're all here wondering if some wizard stole something from a being more wise and experienced than /Mab/, who, lets remember, was running the long con this whole book. I find it far more likely that (assuming it's Mother Winter's) the staff was taken through some trickery orchestrated by a full Queen or Mother Summer, most likely the latter because of Summer's role in limiting the power of Winter upon mortals. Probably had more to do with a fae, and probably involved a bumbling wizard who didn't really know much about what was going on. Probably he/she got one of those lovely "rock and a hard place" choices. Merlin?
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I dunno.
HARRY was able to summon and hold the Erlking as a strong but sloppy wizard, and he's been put on par with the queens.
If there was a serious effort from a powerful AND 200+ year old wizard to steal it, I can see it happening.
Not all of them could do it, and it's obviously not a walk in the park to do, but I could see it happening, during Winter's weaker part of the day when Summer controls the table.
MijRai:
And look at what happened when Harry tried it with Mother Winter. Woosh, giant skeletal claw hand dragged him into a black room with meat cleavers.
The Erlking may be on par with the Queens. The Mothers are a completely different story. Of the level above archangels (like Lucifer and Uriel).
Autra:
--- Quote from: MijRai on November 28, 2012, 08:12:31 AM ---And look at what happened when Harry tried it with Mother Winter. Woosh, giant skeletal claw hand dragged him into a black room with meat cleavers.
The Erlking may be on par with the Queens. The Mothers are a completely different story. Of the level above archangels (like Lucifer and Uriel).
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That was also Harry as a vassal of winter, still being young, and not taking the time to build a strong circle to contain the Mother. Plus, because she'd already lost her walking stick, he HURT her in doing so.
He was counting on his winter Sidhe affiliation to work in his favor. I mean hell, he summoned Titania without even a quarter of the work he put in to summoning the Erlking.
Someone more disciplined and more mature would still have a chance.
(click to show/hide)Keep in mind that the Mother's cottage was still within 'walking distance' of where the gates were, a place where nobody as young as he was should know how to arrive at, so most wizards as green as Harry is probably wouldn't get close.
Korwin:
--- Quote from: GrandPanjandrum on November 28, 2012, 02:55:38 AM ---but can't take it back because of the balance with Summer.
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I think we can say now after Cold Days, the supposed balance between the courts is'nt there.
Mab could crush Summer anytime she wants. She would only need to let the outer gates without their guards.
And I'm pretty shure Mother Winter and Mother Summer arent two seperate entities.
FirstSelector:
Mother Winter isn't totally incapable of leaving her cottage without her stick, by the way.
--- Quote from: Summer Knight Ch 34 ---She [Mab] gestured, and the thorns parted. Maeve stood there in her white armor, and Mother Winter stood behind her, all shrouded in black cloth. Before them on the ground knelt Lloyd Slate, broken, obviously in pain, his hands manacled to a collar around his throat, the whole made of something that looked like cloudy ice.
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The balance does exist, just not in the way we always assumed. Summer acts to prevent Winter from interfering too much with the rest of the world, and Winter prevents Summer from overdoing it. I don't think Mab could crush Summer "anytime she wants," because that would go against her nature as the guardian of the Gates.
Probably the only person with enough power to steal anything from Mother Winter would have to either be Mother Summer (assuming they are not the same entity) or an archangel. I don't think it is likely that a direct play by the Outsiders would be likely, as the Mothers are too knowledgeable to be tricked. I doubt it was a dragon (those are on par with Mab, not the Mothers), as I doubt it was a mortal.
If it was stolen, perhaps it was concealed from her in some way (though that would take absurd power). If not, and she willingly let the White Council have it, there is almost certainly a reason. The Fae appear to depend on the ability of the Gatekeeper to sniff out infection, and perhaps they leverage the abilities of the Blackstaff in some other way.
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