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The YLC (Why Little Chicago) thread
KevinSig:
I'm not sure if I should put this here, or revisit & bump my thread, but in my reading you can only get two results from directly attempting time travel. 1, you can create a new universe in which the change was made, get a bunch of mental backlash in the process. 2, you can end existence. In both cases, you don't ever personally benefit from the changes.
Hence, my belief that only a doppelgänger's who's own timeline works independently of our own can effect change. Because if they screw up, the universe continues. If they successfully make a change, the universe remains consistent & there isn't a backlash, or at least not the same kind of backlash.
It may be a wrong viewpoint, but it is my best guess at a solution, considering how I think Bob describes time travel operating.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: KevinSig on November 02, 2012, 10:09:39 PM ---I'm not sure if I should put this here, or revisit & bump my thread, but in my reading you can only get two results from directly attempting time travel. 1, you can create a new universe in which the change was made, get a bunch of mental backlash in the process. 2, you can end existence. In both cases, you don't ever personally benefit from the changes.
--- End quote ---
I think Bob was saying time travel is possible, but it's extremely dangerous because if you screw up then you get one of the two above results, rather than the result you intended.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: KevinSig on November 02, 2012, 10:09:39 PM ---I'm not sure if I should put this here, or revisit & bump my thread, but in my reading you can only get two results from directly attempting time travel. 1, you can create a new universe in which the change was made, get a bunch of mental backlash in the process. 2, you can end existence.
--- End quote ---
It seems to me pretty obvious that the "time travel ends existence" postulate can't have been experimentally checked, so we are free to consider it unproven.
King Ash:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 02, 2012, 11:58:33 PM ---It seems to me pretty obvious that the "time travel ends existence" postulate can't have been experimentally checked, so we are free to consider it unproven.
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Unless it happened in one of those alternate reality universes that Bob talks about.
fuzzix:
Okay, spitballing here.
Theory: The Gatekeeper wanted Harry dead in Proven Guilty; his message was designed to and failed to acheive that goal.
Concerns: How and When would LC first be used if the Gatekeeper never sent a message?
Weak point: Can the Gatekeeper see well enough in to the future to know Dresden would use something (LC) and die with reasonable confidence?
We know that some forces believe dresden was fated to die in an alley (in Dead Beat?).
Prior to his prediceted death, he obtained a denarian coin.
Denarian Dresden would be ultra bad news.
So, as Gatekeeper, I wonder, "How is it Harry Dresden has avoided death in Dead beat, and what can be done to prevent a supercharged denari-dresden? (dresden-arian?)"
And/or, I (Gatekeeper) get a message from the future that Harry is going to do something crazy stupid in the near future (set foot on DR leading to creating a sanctum on DR leading to lots of bad news, eventually the rise of the fomor etc. OR, grey cloaked man amking minor talents disappear? OR hand the Archive over to the denarians?) and needs to be killed or changed.
I posit that LC was fixed by subconscious dresden and Lash. Sub-dresden is driven to attain power. Lash has worked with sub-dresden since he picked up the coin. LC is a total god-complex fueling toy (appealing to sub-dresden). Lash has a strong sense of self (host) preservation.
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