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Orbweaver:
I have a suspect nobody has mentioned yet. Remember how Harry was able to choke Nicodemus into unconsciousness on the boat in Small Favor at the end of the climactic scene?

And how one of the Swords lit up for him? It was only a single flash, but it was enough to repel Anduriel at a critical moment.

If Harry had blown his head off during Proven Guilty due to a mistake on LC, he never would have been there to stop Nicodemus from taking the Sword, corrupting it, and also gaining the majority of the free-roaming coins in the process.

I think that on the particular timeline our Harry is on, and with the events that happened during Small Favor, whoever was behind that Sword flash had a vested interest in keeping Harry's head attached to his shoulders.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: Orbweaver on November 04, 2012, 11:37:21 PM ---If Harry had blown his head off during Proven Guilty due to a mistake on LC, he never would have been there to stop Nicodemus from taking the Sword, corrupting it, and also gaining the majority of the free-roaming coins in the process.

--- End quote ---

If Harry had died in PG, though, who would Mab have sent to retrieve Marcone ?  I can't see Nicodemus getting hold of Ivy, let alone getting in a position to bargain for Fidelacchius with whoever got it next, without Harry.

X:
I view PG and SmF as two separate stories, in that the actions of PG did not impact the events of SmF beyond the experience themselves.  Keep in mind also, that if someone on the White God's team stepped in to fix LC, that would mean that somebody on the Fallen Angel's side would've had to have cheated and damaged LC, and on that, we have absolutely no proof.  Uriel says its all about balance, and he can't act before the other side.

So without evidence that the other side cheated, we have no way to argue that somebody working for the White God acted on Little Chicago, even to protect the swords.

Orbweaver:

--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 05, 2012, 12:07:55 AM ---If Harry had died in PG, though, who would Mab have sent to retrieve Marcone ?  I can't see Nicodemus getting hold of Ivy, let alone getting in a position to bargain for Fidelacchius with whoever got it next, without Harry.

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It's not as if Mab doesn't have other options, and Nicodemus likely would still have made the deal with the power source for the circle that cut off the Archive's access to magic. Had he killed a KOTC (Sanya is most likely), tricking someone into helping him unmake the Sword would have been child's play from there.

Orbweaver:

--- Quote from: X on November 05, 2012, 01:12:21 AM ---I view PG and SmF as two separate stories, in that the actions of PG did not impact the events of SmF beyond the experience themselves.  Keep in mind also, that if someone on the White God's team stepped in to fix LC, that would mean that somebody on the Fallen Angel's side would've had to have cheated and damaged LC, and on that, we have absolutely no proof.  Uriel says its all about balance, and he can't act before the other side.
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Not necessarily. I suspect that if Uriel/TWG had acted to fix LC, the other side would've taken liberties elsewhere. The two do not necessarily have to be related by area, only in scope.

And actually, now I"m wondering if part of the reason Hell decided to work with the Denarians on circling the Archive was because someone from the opposite team fixed Little Chicago.


--- Quote --- So without evidence that the other side cheated, we have no way to argue that somebody working for the White God acted on Little Chicago, even to protect the swords.

--- End quote ---

It's inconclusive. We know that he/she/it has been willing to allow the Swords to be unmade in the past, but it was always a mortal's decision to do so. I'm not sure the Denarian half-breeds count in terms of tipping that balance.

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