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Sheaman3773:

--- Quote from: wyltok on September 21, 2012, 03:25:40 PM ---Well, I don't know about Odin, but let's not forget the part when a possessed Murph called the Lords of Outer Night false gods, pretenders, and usurpers of truth. I figured their crimes against the Mayans included lying about being their gods.
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Ah, excellent point, I had forgotten that at the time of my posting.

vultur:
"Executive VP of creation" sounds higher up to me than "authority over various portions of the mortal universe", if only because Creation would presumably include the NN as well as the mortal universe.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: vultur on September 22, 2012, 01:00:25 AM ---"Executive VP of creation" sounds higher up to me than "authority over various portions of the mortal universe", if only because Creation would presumably include the NN as well as the mortal universe.

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My interpretation as well.



--- Quote from: Sheaman3773 on September 21, 2012, 03:13:39 PM ---But that's not my point. I saw absolutely nothing in the text to indicate that the Odin we met was not the original Odin, and unless I'm forgetting something, nothing to indicate that the Reds weren't the original Mayan gods besides a moment of speculation from Harry "Unreliable-Narrator" Dresden. If there was textual support for that, please remind me of where it is.

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Oh, I have little doubt that the Odin we met is the original Odin.  But the mythological Odin was never on the order of Creation.  Like the greek gods, he inherited from a previous generation.  Relatively few of the primary pantheistic deities actually claimed direct credit for Creation, most cited something larger and/or more abstract.  One of, if not the first, was the zoroastrian mythology, which many other faiths, including the judeochristian system, borrow heavily from (the concept of archangels for example is often thought to be an interpretation rooted int he Amesha Spenta.  In the DV context it wouldnt surprise me if those were simply older names of the same beings.  Maybe in a few thousand years, Mr Sunshine will stick :)

But thats a debate for other threads, this is for Jim questions, so Ill not clutter it up any more

TheCuriousFan:
This will be part 5 of the questions list because holy crap you guys ask a lot of questions. I'm already a fair portion of the way through part 4, I thought I wouldn't need that until Cold Days when I made it.

TheCuriousFan:
And this will be part 6 since I like having them in groups of two.

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