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the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: Thork on May 05, 2012, 03:12:45 AM ---Lea sent the phages after Molly. We know from as early as Grave Peril that Lea wants Molly; she asks Michael Carpenter for his eldest child.

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Asking for one's firstborn is sufficiently traditional a faerie trope that I don't see that as indicating anything specific, just Lea trying the standard options. 


--- Quote ---The "Attack" on Arctis Tor was actually Lea with the Athame (and the Black Council?) attempting to rebel against Mab.

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Lea's possessor maybe.  Lea herself...  I really do not think she has the capacity.

Elegast:

--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on May 05, 2012, 01:18:29 PM ---My post quoted at the start of the thread makes the distinction between resistance and immunity, and I hold to that logic; we see resistance from beings old and strong enough to bull through magic, and immunity from Lord R that is specifically identified by Harry as Outsider-backed, and the description of the fetch fits the latter.

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Yet:

--- Quote ---"Fuego!" I barked as I released the energy. Fire in a column the size of my clenched fist flashed out at Grum and splashed against his chest.
It didn't slow him down, not by a second. His skin didn't burn-his hair didn't even singe. The fire of my magic spilled over him and did absolutely nothing.
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That doesn't sound like he's bulling through magic.

Edit: could anyone get the quote in Hereot when harry's magic is blocked? I don't have the text.

Thork:

--- Quote from: Elegast on May 05, 2012, 02:20:24 PM ---Yet:
That doesn't sound like he's bulling through magic.

Edit: could anyone get the quote in Hereot when harry's magic is blocked? I don't have the text.

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--- Quote ---The grendelkin hadn’t been kidding about knowing counter-magic, though. All that naked force hit him and just sort of slid off him, like water pouring around a stone. It only drove him back about two steps—which was room enough to let me drop to one knee and swing my staff again.
 
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The problem with the "ocean of cold, cold power" quote is that it's equally interpretable as "outsider immunity" and "ancient winter fae immunity." We already know the Scarecrow is an ancient, powerful, Winter fae, so that seems the simpler explanation.

Cenphx:
Here is the quote from Heorot

--- Quote ---  "A golden flame of fire as wide as a whiskey barrel leapt across the cavern to the grendelkin, smashing into his head and upper body. It was too dispersed to kill the grendelkin outright, but hopefully it would blind and distract the beast enough to let Gard get in the killing blow...  ... ...I realized I might as well have hit him with the stream of water from a garden hose, for all the effect the fire had on him." (pg. 139, hardback.)
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FWIW, this sounds more like a really good defense based an old age/lots of power rather than an outsider immunity. I think neuorvore's distinction between the two is accurate.   

Elegast:

--- Quote from: Thork on May 05, 2012, 02:42:24 PM ---The problem with the "ocean of cold, cold power" quote is that it's equally interpretable as "outsider immunity" and "ancient winter fae immunity." We already know the Scarecrow is an ancient, powerful, Winter fae, so that seems the simpler explanation.

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Yes. Here is the quote about Raith:

--- Quote ---I reached out through the cane for Lord Raith-
And felt nothing. Not just empty air and drifting dust, but nothing. A cold and somehow hungry emptiness that filled the space where he should have been. I'd felt something like it before, when I'd been near a mote of one of the deadliest substances that any world of flesh or spirit had ever known. My power, my magic, the flowing spirit of life, just vanished into it without getting near Raith.
I couldn't touch him. The void around him was so absolute, I knew without needing to doubt that there was nothing in my arsenal of arcane skills that could affect him
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