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PG: combining Neurovore and Knnn.
BlahBlah:
--- Quote from: Vairelome on May 08, 2012, 08:23:35 PM ---Mab is nowhere near Uriel's power level. Uriel has full Intellectus (which by definition includes the power to understand what you know) and was described by JB as "an Executive VP of Creation." It would be a stretch to put Mother Summer and Mother Winter in Uriel's ballpark, and they are both clearly more potent than Mab.
Mab cannot have any sort of general form of Intellectus and simultaneously be unable to lie. For example, when Marcone gets snatched by the Denarians and Harry asks Mab who took him, she responds, "I don't know." It's possible for that to be a true statement (in a twisty Sidhe sense) if she believes she has partial knowledge; it is not possible for that to be a true statement from a being with Intellectus.
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Took me a while to find the source I was looking for.
In SK Lea states (to Harry after he Sees Seeing Titania and Mab): "They exist in opposition. Each wields vast power, wizard - power to rival the archangels and lesser gods."
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the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: BlahBlah on May 13, 2012, 10:26:13 PM ---Took me a while to find the source I was looking for.
In SK Lea states (to Harry after he Sees Seeing Titania and Mab): "They exist in opposition. Each wields vast power, wizard - power to rival the archangels and lesser gods."
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Thank you.
Ms Duck:
Thanks, i forgot that. I knew we had put the archangels, mothers. And ferrovax in the same general weight class but i forgot why..
MartyTaylor:
Good thread. Some stuff I'd like to throw in the pot.
1) We're asking - Why did Mab kidnap Molly?, when Harry's spell mirrored the fetches back at the summoner shouldn't we be asking - Why did Mab kidnap anyone? I mean, how do we know that Molly was her primary target?
2) We're assuming Justin was Black Circle/Council. Was he? He recruited two potential Outsiderbanes that appear to have been prepped for immediate entry into both Winter and Summer. I mean, not only did Harry have immediate easy access to Winter as soon as he dealt with HWWB, didn't Elaine have a quick pass into Summer? Who set that up? That is a very important question no one seems to be asking.
Elegast:
--- Quote from: MartyTaylor on May 14, 2012, 01:18:12 PM ---Good thread. Some stuff I'd like to throw in the pot.
1) We're asking - Why did Mab kidnap Molly?, when Harry's spell mirrored the fetches back at the summoner shouldn't we be asking - Why did Mab kidnap anyone? I mean, how do we know that Molly was her primary target?
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There's a WOJ which strongly implied that Molly was targeted:
--- Quote ---Ask yourself why Mab had Molly brought in. What chain of events did that set in motion? What secondary effects came about because of it? Ultimately, Mab can always go to the Wyld and draw in more muscle to replace fallen thugs. If worst comes to worst, with just a few "seed" fae, she could rear up enough Changelings to repopulate her cadre within a human generation or two--nothing, to a being thousands of years old.
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Plus a fear inducing sorcerer was necessary for the plan to work, and we know that Marling pushed Molly into breking the third Law.
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