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WOJ: Hexenwufl solved
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: gborbonus on April 30, 2012, 05:19:56 PM ---I think the best Fit for who did this was the WK(perhaps Lara's influence).
But... I offer this up for debate... Did we SEE lara take over the WK?
For all we know, the WK might be pulling one over all of us.
I believe Thomas says: you must embrace the role.
WC vamps blend in very easily, and are smart. The WK didn't become the WK because he made mistakes that were costly as the one he made with Harry and Thomas.
Truth is, I don't particularly see any solid proof that the WK is under Lara's control. She could be under his control.
Any evidence to the contrary can be construed as evidence that the WK is more capable than we expect.
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By WoJ, he got himself enslaved. He isn't in control.
Cenphx:
Is it more proof that the wolf belts are from the NN that Benn's turned to ectoplasm when she died? If they orginated in our world would it have done so?
Griffyn612:
Bob on Hexenwolves in FM (hatchet job, all quoted, but mixed for easy reading)
--- Quote ---“Hexenwolf,” Bob said, with a strong Germanic accent. “Spell wolf. The Church declared war on anyone who chose to become a Hexenwolf, and burned a huge number of people at the stake. The most common way, back in France, was to make a deal with a demon or a devil or a powerful sorcerer. You get a wolf-hide belt, put it on, say the magic words, and whammy, you’re a wolf. A Hexenwolf. You don’t use your own magic to become a wolf. You use someone else’s. It’s different because you’re employing a talisman. Sometimes it’s a ring or amulet, but usually it’s a belt. The talisman provides an anchor for a spirit of bestial rage. Nasty thing from the bad side of the Nevernever. That spirit wraps around a human personality to keep it from being destroyed. It leaves you with your own intellect and reason, but the spirit handles everything else. And when you use a talisman to turn into a wolf, you lose all of your human inhibitions and so on, and just run on your unconscious desires, with the talisman-spirit in charge of the way the body moves. It’s really efficient. A huge wolf with human-level intelligence and animal-level ferocity.”
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Possible Suspects
- Victor Sells - unlikely, he was already dead, and while Harry said he was powerful, he didn't have a lot of training
- Leonid Kravos - possible, he summoned demons that could have helped, but no evidence that he was THAT powerful, nor inclined to that form of magic, nor active that early
- Madge Shelly - unlikely; although the most powerful of the ex-wives, we presume her contact with PapaR started due to Arturo's defiance, which was years later.
- Mavra - possible, but doesn't seem to tie in with her darker magic style
- Bianca - unlikely, it was probably too early for her to be that far along in her sorceress apprenticeship, and I don't think we had proof she was 'powerful'
- Ortega - unlikely, no evidence he was that powerful of a sorcerer
- Arianna - possible, seemed to have power, and may have been able to make the belts
- Leah - unlikely, she DOES have a thing for transforming humans into dogs, but she wasn't crazy from the athame yet, and she wouldn't have wanted Harry dead.
- Mab - unlikely, it all seems beneath her
- Aurora - unlikely, no proof she was crazy yet
- Erlking - possible; he may have made the belts, but I don't seem him giving them to Denton. Who else would he make them for, probably at Fae cost, who would then give them away to Denton for free?
- Nicodemus - unlikely, no evidence that he's ever done magic on that scale
- Thorned Namshiel - possible, due to presumed Blouncil ties and known magical ability
- Lord Raith - possible/unlikely, i like to pin everything on him these days, and he knows magic, but him being cut off from using magic makes it nay impossible.
- Lara Raith - unlikely, we haven't seen her do any magic other than the White Court Whammy
- Madrigal Raith - unlikely, we never saw proof he would be in the 'powerful wizard' category
- Madeline Raith - unlikely, like her brother, doesn't seem to have any magical ability
- Skavis - unlikely, no evidence whatsoever of magical ability beyond standard White Court
- Cowl - possible; he has enough power, is familiar with the NN, can handle demon-beast things, but what would his motivation have been?
- Corpsetaker - possible; she knew SOMETHING about bodies, but doesn't seem like her forte
- Grevane - unlikely; as a traditional necromancer, it doesn't seem like his bag
- Skinwalker - possible, is powerful, familiar with darker magics, shapeshifting, and has helped at least once in a presumed Blouncil plot.
- Theoretical Kumori/Elaine: She's probably powerful enough; she spent time in Summer, and may have learned how to bind NN spirits to a belt like Bob described; she would definitely warn people about the Wouncil, but other than being a task Cowl gave her, wouldn't have motivation against Marcone.
asetti:
" Erlking - possible; he may have made the belts, but I don't seem him giving them to Denton. Who else would he make them for, probably at Fae cost, who would then give them away to Denton for free?"
Ah. But how do we know the FBI agents did not cut a deal with him for services or goods?
Cenphx:
I reread Love Hurts. When Murphy says the seatbelts are like the wolf belts, Harry says yeah, exactly. So I think any theory which solves who gave out the wolf belts needs to consider who was behing the magic seatbelts in Love Hurts. He says the magic involved in creating them was delicate difficult magic for which there might not be three people on the entire WC who could pull it off. he also calls the belt a focus item with a routine built in-'you pour energy in one end, and you get results on the other.'. FWIW, that is how Harry describes the entropy curse ritual in Blood Bites-pour energy in, results come out. And 'delicate magic' seems to be a tag for Elaine's magic, iirc. Ergo, Elaine is BC, in league with outsiders (from whom the entropy curse comes) and is passing out magical objects and rituals to sow chaos.
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