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khatre:
--- Quote ---On the gripping hand
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Thanks wyltok, i have not seen that phrase in a looooong time. ;D
Ms Duck:
Here are two options: you are correct, and lasciel was quitly whispering in his mind by herslef. This cause GS, and now that harry knows he can take actions against it. Or B; i am correct, lasciel has a new host likley somone he knows. Who has now tried to kill himtwice and will be a major adversary in the future. You are Jim... Whic do you write? ;)
khatre:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on March 14, 2012, 09:10:31 PM ---Here are two options: you are correct, and lasciel was quitly whispering in his mind by herslef. This cause GS, and now that harry knows he can take actions against it. Or B; i am correct, lasciel has a new host likley somone he knows. Who has now tried to kill himtwice and will be a major adversary in the future. You are Jim... Whic do you write? ;)
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I totally misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that Lasciel (whisper) was using the old connection from when Harry first picked up the coin instead of Lasciel getting a new holder. My bad ;)
DragonEyes:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on March 14, 2012, 09:10:31 PM ---Here are two options: you are correct, and lasciel was quitly whispering in his mind by herslef. This cause GS, and now that harry knows he can take actions against it. Or B; i am correct, lasciel has a new host likley somone he knows. Who has now tried to kill himtwice and will be a major adversary in the future. You are Jim... Whic do you write? ;)
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I'm pretty sure that Lasciel has a new host two.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: wyltok on March 14, 2012, 08:49:05 PM ---When you look at it like that, it still sounds elegant. It also sounds slow as molasses. If the Fallen is only allowed to offer some sort of boost and has to wait until after the offer is taken before they're allowed to actually tempt the person, how the heck is their success rate usually so good that they get a person to pick up the coin in a few weeks at most?
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I don't think most bearers take that first step of rejection. They probably slip the coin in their pocket and carry it around like a secret treasure. Without that first rejection, they would be open to the full temptation at the start.
--- Quote from: wyltok on March 14, 2012, 08:49:05 PM ---On the gripping hand, this does align with the idea that forcing someone to pick up a coin won't work, because even after you are forced to pick the coin, you still have to accept the first offer of power without either the Fallen or the Fallen's shadow being allowed to tempt you. Unless, of course, they cheat.
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No, I think once you touch the coin the Fallen can try to tempt you. It is only following an act of refusal (Harry sealing the coin) that the Fallen is forced to resort to more subtle means.
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 14, 2012, 08:51:24 PM ---How do you know you won't like it if you don't give it a taste first?
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Classic temptation, classic folly. I don't need to taste peach pie (which I would probably like) to know it is unhealthy and I don't need to steal a sports car to know it is morally wrong.
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