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Serack:
--- Quote from: AcornArmy on March 16, 2012, 05:45:33 PM ---I think that's actually been unofficially confirmed, right? Someone got him to say that Lash was the parasite while he was signing their book. 'Course, he could have been using "Lash" and "Lasciel" interchangeably. He's done that before. Or the parasite could be the combined being of Lash and Lasciel, and the Whispering Fallen could have been someone other than Lasciel. Like Anduriel, for instance. He always seemed like a great suspect, since his physical form was just a shadow to begin with, and he did come very close to killing Nicodemus. Nic might have pressured Anduriel into getting rid of Harry, even if it broke a Rule.
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Yes. The same person provided half the transcripts of the Atlanta signing Q&A before they were on youtube. I've got that person's claim up in the compilation as sort of an asterisked WoJ.
--- Quote from: sapph ---I was also at the ATL booksigning. When he signed my book, I asked him directly if Lash was the Parasite or the shadow. Shockingly, I got a direct answer.
She is the Parasite
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AcornArmy:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on March 16, 2012, 08:26:27 PM ---If the whispering shadow was Lash, then Lash didn't have Harry killed--Harry had himself killed.
Remember, the seven words didn't include, "Then kill yourself." They were a guilt trip, probably meant to make Harry seek power--if Lash is whispering, then she'd have preferred said power be Lasciel, but another source of power (that would heal Harry) would also help ensure Lash's and Harry's survival.
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But we know-- or, at least, Uriel has led Harry to believe-- that the Whisperer intended for its words to convince Harry to kill himself. According to what Uriel said, the Whisperer knew exactly how Harry would react, and it said what it did, when it did, to trigger a suicidal reaction. That was supposedly how the Whisperer cheated, and the fact that it cheated was the reason that Harry was allowed to return to Earth in the first place. This chain of events seems to disprove the "Lash screwed up" theory.
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on March 16, 2012, 09:08:58 PM ---The shadow is lasciel , i believe in a new host. Lash is the parasite. This has been i believe confirmed by jim. (not the new host part). Also let slip by Jim is there is a conection between maggie sr and the black court, and that they will be showing up soon. As to lash herslef, she knows what the black court is up too.. Not nec the outsiders. Rember her last words in wn? Shes taking a nap until after jim does his big blampire amry reveal ;)
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As Serack quoted, it's been unofficially confirmed that Lash is the Parasite. It has not been confirmed that Lasciel was the Whispering Fallen. That's just the most obvious place where Lasciel could have shown up in Ghost Story.
Myself, I always feel like that's too easy a guess to make for Jim to bother hiding it at the end of GS. It feels to me like the guess we're supposed to make, and then we find out later that the truth was something sneakier and more surprising.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: AcornArmy on March 17, 2012, 05:14:44 PM ---But we know-- or, at least, Uriel has led Harry to believe-- that the Whisperer intended for its words to convince Harry to kill himself. According to what Uriel said, the Whisperer knew exactly how Harry would react, and it said what it did, when it did, to trigger a suicidal reaction. That was supposedly how the Whisperer cheated, and the fact that it cheated was the reason that Harry was allowed to return to Earth in the first place. This chain of events seems to disprove the "Lash screwed up" theory.
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I'd have to reread the relevant passages, but I got the impression that the whispered words were meant to push Harry into becoming the Winter Knight rather than to suicide.
Ms Duck:
No ureil is the one who told him to be wk methinks. Lasciel tried to kill him three times in that book i believe: once on the ladder, once with the words, and a third time with stevie d. Shes one ticked off chickie.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on March 17, 2012, 05:34:13 PM ---No ureil is the one who told him to be wk methinks. Lasciel tried to kill him three times in that book i believe: once on the ladder, once with the words, and a third time with stevie d. Shes one ticked off chickie.
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How was Lash responsible for the ladder? Also, and I know you'll never agree, but the words made Harry become the Winter Knight, not that they got him dead.
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