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gojj:

--- Quote from: Hick Jr on August 29, 2014, 03:21:08 AM ---Regarding the extra benefit, I forgot to include that you do need at least Thaumaturgy to take this Magic. It's implied in the Description, but I'll make it explicit. It's functionally just one or two stunts. I'm a little confused by your reaction. It's powerful, but only in a fairly limited scope. I can't really think of anything I could do with it that I also couldn't do with, say, Spirit magic.

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Say Joe takes this sponsored magic and a refinement, and he chooses to use all six slots for specializations. He now effectively gets six free specializations for any Evocation spell he casts, which amounts to three refresh worth of refinements.

Say Joe takes this Sponsored magic and decides to use all four focus item slots as focus items, +2 Deus Vitae Complexity and +2 Deus Vitae Control (Thaum). He now effectively gets +2 DV Offensive Power, +2 DV Defensive Power, +2 DV Offensive Control, and +2 Defensive Control for free, a total of four refresh worth of focus item bonuses.

If Joe decided to take this power and three refinements, and used them on 6 thaumaturgy specializations, and 4 thaumaturgy focus items, he gets a whopping seven refresh worth of evocation bonuses for free.

Maybe I am looking this in a different way than you guys, but this seems like a ridiculous amount of power for relatively little refresh.

Sanctaphrax:
It's a lot. Probably too much. Especially with the way your foci always cover both offence and defence.

But every Sponsored Magic allows some of what you describe. Even with no extra benefit at all, you can get +2 offensive power and control with your base item slots. You won't have the same level of defensive or thaumaturgy ability, but honestly those numbers tend to be less important.

gojj:
I definitely outlined a worse-case scenario, but even if someone wasn't trying to power game it could still result in at least two free refresh worth of refinements.

Hick Jr:
This is probably one of my more powerful sponsored magics, I'll admit.

Would pricing it up to [-5] alleviate most of your concerns?

Sanctaphrax:
Some of them. It still sort of feels like two magics glued together, though.

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