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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: ImpishMortal on January 25, 2012, 07:39:02 PM ---I don't think Harry Potter did it well, but it had way more plot holes and inconsistencies as a series than TDF does. Time travel also introduced critical logic issues into that series. Information and items don't just appear out of nowhere.
(see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap_paradox)

Besides, who says the bad guys are doing it constantly and that there aren't good guys who have had to travel back to "fix" things themselves? For example, I think the instance in which Harry "was supposed to die" at the hands of Corpsetaker could have originally played out that way, but was altered by someone traveling back and alerting Marcone. Harry would not have been able to do that (in this particular instance), so it strikes me that perhaps there are have been several alterations to the time stream, but that we only see the the altered time and not the original situation that had to be "fixed."

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But we know in the Dresdenverse that time travel, or some equivalent, is possible.  Otherwise there wouldn't be a WC rule on it.  And supposedly WoJ is that all of the rules will be broken.  So if we're stuck with it, we have to make the best of it. 


--- Quote from: cass on January 26, 2012, 06:25:47 PM ---Is that from a WoJ? 
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I bet if JB has read as many posts on that 'Fuego' as I have, he regrets writing that one-liner joke. 

sandman1313:
The WOJ isnt that all the rules would be broken it was some like" it is not like i have seven books outlined dealing with the laws" iirc

Starshine:

--- Quote from: sandman1313 on January 26, 2012, 10:54:47 PM ---The WOJ isnt that all the rules would be broken it was some like" it is not like i have seven books outlined dealing with the laws" iirc

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Yes, you are right I think.  By coincidence I found this from another thread posted by The Curious Fan from a WoJ:

Will we ever see Dresden forced into a situation where he may have to jump through time to do something?

Jim's Response: That would require him breaking one of the laws of magic, and it's not as though I have seven books outlined, one for each law, or anything. We may, probably, possibly some see such as thing at some point.

Back to my comments [highlights mine BTW] :

Im kind of relieved by this.  The way I read it he DOESNT have some plan to have Harry or someone break all the Laws of Magic.  If it happens to further the plot, it happens.  But he's not  intentionally writing for it to happen.

I'd say it's 50/50 if there is going to be any actual time travel or not - PLEASE GOD! do I hope not!!!

sandman1313:
I read somewhere jim is planing on doing a miorror mirror book which ends my my one time line theory (like i said b4 i belive the harrys subconsious time travel theory any ways) this would however have to be the result of breaking one of the laws a parodx event being the most likely at least to my mind please excuse any misspelling my tablet has no spell check and i am dyslexic

Starshine:

--- Quote from: Serack on January 24, 2012, 04:06:35 PM ---I really enjoy answering questions like this one. 
I started writing up a potential topic discussing this very thing, so sorry if my response to this topic is a bit long, it’s something I’ve put a lot of thought into.

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And I appreciate your taking the time to answer me in so much detail.  It was very interesting to read how this came about.

I wouldnt have guessed this series was plotted out so far in advance - even before he started SF.  The first couple of books are quite simple compared to what comes later and the tone of the books is much lighter, almost humorous.  Kind of reminded me of Nightstalker, if anyone remembers that TV show.  I thought we were in for a kind of magic detective type of mystery novel, and then - very suddenly [starting with Bianca's party, but really coming into its own in SK] - we make this 90 degree turn - the tone gets more serious, the plots get more complex, and we get this extraordinarily rich and creative mythology as a background.  And all the characters became very fleshed out and "real".

I really love this series - it's interesting to read about how it all came about.

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