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TheWinterEmissary:

--- Quote from: Shecky on September 25, 2011, 01:05:28 PM ---And the contrary can be quite true as well.
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Yeah, I didn't include that because I think that it's pretty well likely to be taken as a given. 


--- Quote ---Schoolin' simply can't be taken as a measure of social judgement - the stereotype of the book-nerd who is dumb at everything else is just as much to be avoided as is the stereotype of the non-formally-educated being just dumb. We can't automatically draw conclusions either way.

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I think that all of the generalizations are a bad idea.  Someone could be a great people person and a great lawyer (one attribute in the "book learning" category and one attribute in the "street smart/real world" learning category), but they could stink at other facets of each like chemistry and driving a car.  I think that the truth is that there are a wide variety of skills, and some people are likely average in a lot of them, while others excel more in some areas but are weak in others.  I hold no shame in admitting that for me most forms of art are not a strong suit. 

TheWinterEmissary:

--- Quote from: Snowleopard on September 25, 2011, 07:40:34 PM ---The Process doesn't.  Something is very, very wrong there.  Either the person is untrained in that area or doesn't want to do.  (I don't really want to think of the third option - that they might actually want to inflect pain.)

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I don't know where the truth lies, but the vet has been in business there for over 10 years, so even if he started out untrained I have to believe that he had the opportunity to become so over such a long period of time. 

Snowleopard:
If he did that to one of my animals I would report his ass to every group I could think of.
From the BBB to the Humane Society.  That's just wrong.

TheWinterEmissary:
I didn't think of it at the time.  It was my family's pet, but I hadn't spent much time with her in a long while (over a decade) as I had moved out years earlier.  My parents had gone through something similar with an earlier cat, and at the time they talked to a few others in the neighborhood who made similar claims.  I couldn't believe that they wanted to take this second cat to the same vet, but they said that otherwise things seemed okay, they had already paid, and maybe the first had been a fluke or the vet had changed. 

But my experience seemed just as horrible.  The cat was about 17, and obviously failing badly physically, but she still seemed pretty alert mentally.  My parents were too upset to take her in, so they instructed me.  I wish that I had gone somewhere else and lied, but they were a lot more familiar with the situation than I was.  I tried to comfort her, tell her it would be okay and stroke her, but she was thrashing and it was just shocking that the vet kept injecting her and saying again and again that he had to "do it one more time".  I really started to question him and eventually he "got it right".  I felt extra badly that I wasn't really a loved one for her, and that she should have had better.  But it was too late to do anything more to help her, so I did my best to be comforting until she obviously was clearly gone, and then I immediately left. 

Snowleopard:
I repeat there is something seriously wrong there.  I've been with several animals that were put to sleep and they just drifted off - no struggling or thrashing.  They'd had a shot to sedate them and then the euthenasia shot was given into a vein.
Either that vet is clueless, he's using the wrong or too weak a chemical or he wants to inflict pain.
He NEEDS to be reported to someone NOW!

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