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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
omfgitsbacon:
--- Quote from: Daredeval on July 28, 2011, 05:08:29 AM ---Well, two important things re: Eb and the White Council.
1. We know Ebenezar knows what Demonreach is, and that Harry's the new Winter Knight. Seems logical he could put 2 and 2 together and realize that Mab doesn't like being cheated and that Demonreach's "custodian" won't just go quietly into the night.
2. Question: Have any other members of the White Council cheated death? Do they know of anyone who has? I can't see Harry as the first person a Fallen has ever whispered murderous lies to.
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To the question 2, how many wizards everr in WC history are like Harry. A self-righteous depressing blowing-up buildings mage :D
Taylor0401:
I've noticed a lot of focus on what Harry did to Molly and how terrible it was. Yes, it was an awful thing to put someone through. Especially someone you love. But look at it from Harry's point of view. It had to be done, and who else could he have asked? There was literally nobody that could have accomplished what Molly did with his memory while still leaving his mind intact. Nobody that he could trust to be meddling in there in the first place anyway.
Someone above posted that Uriel doesn't specifically say that it was a Fallen who whispered to Harry. I re-read it, and yes, he does.
“That . . . that shadow. It’s an angel?” “It was once,” he said, and his voice was gentle—and infinitely sad. “A long, long time ago.” “One of the Fallen,” I breathed. “Yes. Who knew how to lie to you, Harry.”
I find Ebenezar's absence pretty strange too, but I suppose there are a few possible explanations. Although I doubt "bogged down in paperwork" is one of them haha. I hope this is explained in Cold Days, because I have a feeling Harry's going to need all the help he can get pretty soon. Not to mention it seems an opportune time for the Eb/Kincaid feud to either get resolved or blow up. Given the nature of both characters, I don't see the "get resolved" option happening.
I'm not sure how he would do it yet, but I really hope that Jim brings Lash back into the series. She was really beginning to be a great character and then bam, she's gone. I think White Night was the first book in the series that left me sad at the end because of that.
I'm also surprised at Maggie Sr nor Malcolm being involved in GS. Like someone said before, with all the spirits and afterlife happenings flying around this book, I almost feel like "How could either of them NOT be included in it?"
Mister:
--- Quote from: Autra on July 27, 2011, 06:14:36 PM ---Am I the only one who thinks that Murph already suspects that it was Kincaid that killed Harry?
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No, Harry thinks it too. Great minds think alike ;)
CapnCowl:
--- Quote from: BadHumours on July 27, 2011, 08:28:39 PM ---With regard to Uriel's seven words: Uriel says that Mab is lying, but we know she is incapable of lying (Mr. Butcher thoughtfully wrote us a scene in this very book in which Dresden reminds us of this). On the other hand, nowhere is it said the Uriel is incapable of lying. He certainly seems to find it distasteful, but presumably he is capable of it, especially when issues of cosmic balance are involved.
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Holy freaking crap, I just had a scary thought.
What if the athame gives a fae who holds it the ability to lie? Lea repeatedly calls it a "treacherous" gift. What is more treacherous than a well-placed lie? Could Uriel be trying to warn Harry about it, since Mab is now in possession of the athame? The use of the word 'lies', I think, is of absolute importance to this theory. He could have said "untrue" or "false" or "mistaken". But he specifically used the word "lies", something Mab cannot normally do willingly. And Harry has already said Uriel stacks the deck when it comes to his actions. One action accomplishes multiple goals. This one restores the balance that the Fallen threw out, but it also serves as an attempted warning to Harry about the dagger.
Mister:
--- Quote from: laura_be on July 27, 2011, 07:42:54 PM ---About Molly, I agree, he knows what he did to her, and he feels terrible for it. Molly was his big concern in this book, like his daughter was in Changes. He feels responsable for everything that happens to her. And he should, to some degree. She agreed to it, after all.
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Of her own free will, which would make her responsible, not Harry.
On the Molly front, what struck me was that he trusted her to tinker with his mind and she proved worthy of that trust. It must have been very tempting to change his mind for him, and add a little 'I love you, Molly' while she was about it. I think maybe she's outgrown doing stupid stuff with her magic.
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