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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
Arjan:
--- Quote from: thundrio on August 02, 2012, 04:01:29 AM ---He makes two comments indirectly mentioning his suicide, but he never explicitly tells Mab he arranged his death.
the first quote is of Harry's thoughts.
"I hadn't escaped her. I hadn't escaped what she could make me become.
Oh, God.
And all the people who'd gotten hurt, helping me . . . They'd done it for <i>nothing</i>"(474 US Hardcover GS).
Since he is talking about not having escaped Mab, it is reasonable to think that he remembers his plan. But he could have been relieved about escaping her at the start of GS, since it WAS a convienient side effect of being dead.
the second one is slightly harder to refute, as Harry talks to Mab.
"Guess . . . you're kind of upset with me" (475 US Hardcover GS).
But I think its plausible that he just meant that Mab would be upset at him for coming so close to death.
Right after that Mab talks about how Harry cheated her, although we don't see his reaction to that. It's possible though that Mab is just assuming Harry cheated her without proof, because IIRC Harry never talks to her about it (and Harry said to Molly that Mab would know if he was lying [implying he would have to tell Mab something for her to discern if he is telling the truth]).
Anyway I think that he will remember, mostly because I think he needs to make amends to Molly. But its an interesting idea.
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Harry did remember the whole thing about the seven words because he was counting Uriels words. Harry will remember everything including his rediscovered memories. This makes sense because the whole exercise was a learning experience according to Uriel, Lea and Demonreach all.
thundrio:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 02, 2012, 10:39:14 AM ---Harry did remember the whole thing about the seven words because he was counting Uriels words. Harry will remember everything including his rediscovered memories. This makes sense because the whole exercise was a learning experience according to Uriel, Lea and Demonreach all.
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I know Harry will remember the events of GS, but I think he could forget the memory of arranging his own death specifically. I think this because Molly messed with his head to remove that memory, but as a ghost he was unaffected by the spell and could recall it perfectly (like he could when reminiscing about HWWB). However it seems possible that once he is back in his body Molly's spell will start working again.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: thundrio on August 02, 2012, 11:18:25 PM ---I know Harry will remember the events of GS, but I think he could forget the memory of arranging his own death specifically. I think this because Molly messed with his head to remove that memory, but as a ghost he was unaffected by the spell and could recall it perfectly (like he could when reminiscing about HWWB). However it seems possible that once he is back in his body Molly's spell will start working again.
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He should be able to recall recalling it though.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on August 02, 2012, 11:20:07 PM ---He should be able to recall recalling it though.
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Exactly.
AcornArmy:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on August 02, 2012, 11:20:07 PM ---He should be able to recall recalling it though.
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Which tells us that the memories of his soul can transfer to the memories in his brain. What Molly did was, apparently, wipe the memory right out of Harry's head, affecting his brain. It wouldn't have been a matter of just blocking the memory, like what Lea did to Susan in Grave Peril, because Mab would have sensed something like that. It couldn't be an active spell. It had to be something that Molly did right then, which would permanently alter Harry's memory for good, or Mab would have been able to see signs of it. At least, that's how it seemed to me, especially when Harry and Molly were talking about it.
And if that's what Molly did, then there was no spell hanging around afterward for anyone counterspell. It would have been like brain damage, really; a very selective form of brain damage.
So, if we assume that's true, then the fact that Harry can remember it now means that the memories of his soul can overwrite or add to the memories in his brain. Which also means that, if Harry can figure out how to do it, he can use the permanent memory of his soul to protect the more malleable memory of his brain. If nothing else, he could come up with a sort of automated spell-system to check his brain and compare the memory there with the memory of his soul, and write over the brain-memories if there were any discrepancies. Sort of like an error-checking system with computer hard drives.
Though, of course, that might be more easily described than done, but it seems like something a wizard ought to be able to accomplish, given enough time and motivation.
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