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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
Goodknight:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on August 23, 2011, 02:23:31 AM ---
If we say he is good with creating enchanted items: armored coat, energy rings etc, Well, in Death mask, when Susan ask him why he do not carry enchanted items like the rope he use to tie Susan, he said he is not good enough. At the same time, we find out in White knight that Ramirez, who approximately the same age as Harry in Death mask, perhaps even younger, can make a shield glove with the principle of entropy which probably is as good as any of Harry shield bracelet before White knight.
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Well, it never explicitly mentioned that Ramirez created it (I think). Furthermore, assuming that Ramirez's bracelet only scatters physical objects, it wouldn't do diddly against sound, light, fire, force, etc. that Dresden's new shield can block. AKA:Ramirez's shield has the same effects as Harry's original one.
Kalam:
To go on from the quote below and from a few other points, i think we all need to remember that harry is at the beginning of his life as a wizard, and in most cases other wizards consider him to be a child, however that being said, i beleive they also FEAR him - i disagree with the earlier comment that almost all of the white council could defeat him through skill rather than raw power, because as we read the books, harry grows and becomes more than what he was, he created little chicago, and that in itsell according to bob was a massive acheivement for any wizard, he is mostly self taught and he learns most of that in the thick of battle, he is self depricating also so when he talks about how "good" he is, i actually beleive he sells himself short.
he has the leansidhe as a body guard and the white council have had cause to end him more than once and they havent.
his birth apparently is meant to give him power over the outsiders, perhaps the only mortal man that does, so he is valuable.
personally i beleive we dont know nothing yet as to where his main powers lie, but he is a combat wizard through and through, however his skill at making items is rapidly improving.
(furthermore to that note about items he creates, notice that they get better because his old one failed, and he put more thought into the different types of incidents he would likely be subject to ergo, the only thing in his way, his the limits he puts upon his own psyche)
keep in mind that harry is a lonely man, he likes his lonliness like a companion, but that has to breed self consiousness from him
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on August 23, 2011, 02:23:31 AM ---The problem about Harry's particular talent is that rarely he got somebody in the book other then himself who rated his skill. And if there is, it is rarely someone with enough credibility.
Harry said he is good with Thaumaturgy but that is just his own opinion and it can be argued that he just think himself good in those area because he is been doing that for years. No particular gifted talent there.
If we say he is good with creating enchanted items: armored coat, energy rings etc, Well, in Death mask, when Susan ask him why he do not carry enchanted items like the rope he use to tie Susan, he said he is not good enough. At the same time, we find out in White knight that Ramirez, who approximately the same age as Harry in Death mask, perhaps even younger, can make a shield glove with the principle of entropy which probably is as good as any of Harry shield bracelet before White knight.
When he animated the T-rex in dead beat, he told Ramirez that is just hard work, not complicated. Again we can argue that it is just Harry being modest, but no one other then Ramirez compliment it, and Ramirez is just a young wizard with limited amount of magical muscle. He do not have enough expirience to rate that feet and due to his own limited amount of strength, he might think that Harry's feet in animating the T-rex is impressive because it is beyond his own strength.
If we say that his massive strength is a skill by itself, well, nothing to be argue there. That is only a matter of oppinion.
Other then Bob's comment in Proven Guilty about Harry having a gift creating things like 'Little Chicago, we do not have anyone with significant level of magical expirience compliment Harry on a particular magical feet.
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pr1701d:
--- Quote from: Lord Kasavin on July 29, 2011, 02:07:04 AM ---Presumably right away, but GS did the time skip thing to start, so it might have done it again. Dresden's revival is in the hands of 3 nigh on immortals: Mab, Uriel, and Demonreach. A month or a year is all relative to them.
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Dresden's return is on a timetable due to the approaching summer solstice, Mab has held winter in Chicago for this but once the summer solstice comes, the Summer Queen would force Mab out. Afterwards, Mab can play time games with Harry in the NN.
pr1701d:
--- Quote from: Powderkegger on August 02, 2011, 10:35:32 PM ---I keep wondering about what Harry's standing with the Council is going to be when he returns. He was officially dead for months, his apprentice is an outlaw (though she's apparently not a top priority for the Wardens) and there's no way the Council doesn't/won't know about the Winter Knight gig. Harry Dresden- Outlaw Sorceror?
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Offically dead? There was no body, he was missing and perhaps presumed dead by most of his friends...but there was no "Official" decision he was dead. His friends held an informal graveside gathering. If the white council went looking for him, they would either find his body at Demonreach or more likely be blocked in their search by Mab / Demonreach / Uriel. No reason to assume Harry is the first wizard to go missing for a few months and turn up again.
Harry's position as Winter Knight will probably strengthen his position with the White Council, the council might not like it but they won't go against Mab without good reason. Now, Harry is still required to comply with the White Council's laws of magic even while working for Mab.. that will cause some conflict I'm sure. The White Council won't trust him as Winter Knight, but they didn't trust him before anyway.
laura_be:
Because somewhere it was mentioned that the Council feared Harry. Here's my take on it :)
Personally, I think most people in the White Council could beat Harry if it was about raw power or skill, or both combined. You don't live more than 100 without learning a lot, and you don't make it to the White Council without being a badass in some form. That said, I think what Harry is, is well connected (Mab, his godmother, etc.). And having connections is important, it has save him more than once.
I think what the Council fears about him is not his raw magical power, is his personality. And that he's like a child with matches. I mean, think about it, aren't you scared when you see that? A child playing with matches will hurt himself, his little friends playing with him and he might probably set the house on fire. If they fear something about him, I think that is it.
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