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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
john4200:
--- Quote from: ImmortalPolka on August 21, 2011, 01:07:54 AM --- Tactics are how you handle yourself when the rubber hits the road, in the heat of battle. Harry not only excels as a tactician, it's one of the things that's kept him out of a grave up until now.
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I'm aware of the definition of tactics and strategy, but I'm not interested in getting into a semantic argument.
Anyway, Harry's tactics are not very good. He often just lashes out blindly with all his power when he should be holding back at first, playing a defensive game, or even cutting and running. And he does not make good use of what he has. To give an example, consider the two times he has used soulfire constructively (as a big hand against the Denarian and as a rope against the skinwalker), it has been extremely effective. But most times all Harry uses it for is to supercharge his fire attacks, which wears Harry out quickly. That is not good tactics.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: ImmortalPolka on August 21, 2011, 01:07:54 AM ---We've been shown that all wizards have their strengths and weaknesses, not to mention that some things are just a matter of talent or a lack thereof. I stand by the assertion that Harry has talent, training, skill and experience in mayhem that few on the council can match.
Again, I beg to differ. Tactics are how you handle yourself when the rubber hits the road, in the heat of battle. Harry not only excels as a tactician, it's one of the things that's kept him out of a grave up until now.
Now, Harry the strategist, the long view thinker? Well, I think his record there stinks... um, I mean "speaks"... for itself. :)
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What I meant by skill here is skill with magic. Harry looks to be very good in battle magic. But if you really think about it , he is not really good. Very powerful, overrall good in a fight. Yes. but not very skill in a finer sense. Let us compare it to the phisical equivalent like Murphy. Murphy is small, and in terms of strength he is rather weak. but even so, she is one of the best fighter out there. That is what I meant by skill.
True that Harry have face many things stronger than him. But he is not the Mr. Miagi in magic. He is more like a Thug. A thug that have more expirience and trainning, Yes. but a thug all the same.
As long as his raw strength is not too overpowered, there is still many things out there that can give Harry a hard time. And I am one of those people that likes to see Harry get pounded and only escape by the smallest of margin and with a whole lot of injury, pain, complaints, and misery. It is fun!
Snipee:
Wikipedia said that Molly showed Harry a vision of her family aging and dying off and how she can only love him. Um. Which page was it?
lewis:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on August 21, 2011, 02:51:38 AM ---What I meant by skill here is skill with magic. Harry looks to be very good in battle magic. But if you really think about it , he is not really good. Very powerful, overrall good in a fight. Yes. but not very skill in a finer sense. Let us compare it to the phisical equivalent like Murphy. Murphy is small, and in terms of strength he is rather weak. but even so, she is one of the best fighter out there. That is what I meant by skill.
True that Harry have face many things stronger than him. But he is not the Mr. Miagi in magic. He is more like a Thug. A thug that have more expirience and trainning, Yes. but a thug all the same.
As long as his raw strength is not too overpowered, there is still many things out there that can give Harry a hard time. And I am one of those people that likes to see Harry get pounded and only escape by the smallest of margin and with a whole lot of injury, pain, complaints, and misery. It is fun!
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In all the earlier books he said his talents didnt lie in evocation but instead in finding things and generally things that would help a PI.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: lewis on August 21, 2011, 09:15:31 PM ---In all the earlier books he said his talents didnt lie in evocation but instead in finding things and generally things that would help a PI.
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Thinking about it, I do not recall that there is ever any mention about Harry's particular talent. I mean, Molly is very good with veils even without being tought. Maybe this is due to the fact that Harry only have little official trainning from Du'Morn, but the only time he got complimented for exceeding excellence in magic is when Bob said in Proven Guilty that Harry have talent in creating 'Little Chicago. The rest of the time he just got complimented for his brute strength.
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