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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
nanuq:
Was there ever a real chance of a Harry/Molly romance? Even leaving apart the age difference, the sheer inappropriateness of a romance between a wizard and his apprentice, and the Doom of Damocles, you'd think even Harry would know better than to risk being torn limb from limb by the only dark power that even he fears. I refer, of course, to Molly's mother, Charity. And Michael would let her do it.
rose29206:
--- Quote from: habu987 on July 28, 2011, 11:45:23 PM ---Your Harry/Murphy feelings are *obviously* clouding your judgement! :P
I didn't really ship Harry/Molly before this book, but all of Harry's protestations regarding his lack of romantic interest in Molly came across as him being in denial to me. Especially with how he normally keeps his head where the sun don't shine in regards to women. ;D
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I don't really know where I stand on this. I can see what you're saying here about denial (he keeps referring to how attractive she is before reminding himself? the reader? that he knew her in diapers), but that could be fact, not denial. I'm still interested to see how the whole Murphy thing will play out. Regardless, I think Harry's going to have to at least address Molly's feelings at some point, now that he's recognized that it isn't just a fleeting crush.
ethanjf:
--- Quote from: john4200 on July 28, 2011, 10:14:13 PM ---Why do you assume something needs to keep the heart beating? The tree could be filtering the blood and providing pressure to circulate the blood as well. Which seems to be what you said in your first sentence, anyway ("circulation").
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Well, maybe it's just me but providing nutrients seems a very "plant-like" thing to do--plants are full of liquid that contains sugars, etc. But a beating heart is something unique to animals. Couple other reasons in support of it's being Lash:
1. May be just me but the emphasis on "parasite" (repeated a couple times, deliberately [I think] mysteriously so) made me think there was something more to it than the tree.
2. From an old comment by Jim:
Q: Does Lasciel's shadow get to heaven because she redeemed herself?
A: The answer to that is so much more complicated than is easy to give, especially without giving out extra story and ruining the fun. No. Lasciel's spirit didn't go to heaven. And now, (sing song) I'm not gona tell you. *mutters about heroin for writers* But it will come out, don't worry the story will be there.
Also... he said a couple places that Lash's story isn't over....
Finally, Harry's being dead unlocked all sorts of corners in his mind that were previously sealed shut. Why not a remaining fragment of Lash too?
JEdward:
--- Quote from: john4200 on July 27, 2011, 01:44:28 PM ---So, which of the Fallen whispered in Harry's ear in the flashback from Changes? The Fallen looked like a shadow, so maybe Nicodemus?
Also, it was interesting that Mab lied to Harry. Harry always thought that the Fae were incapable of lying, but Uriel confirmed Mab's lie in the first of his seven words.
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That's true! It's been stated over and over in the books that the Sidhe don't lie, but then Uriel states it plain as day here... curiouser and curiouser...
laura_be:
--- Quote from: habu987 on July 28, 2011, 11:45:23 PM ---Your Harry/Murphy feelings are *obviously* clouding your judgement! :P
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Oh, well, probably I'm the one living in denial then :D
I think Molly is great, now. I mean, for the first time she actually felt like a real person to me, thanks to this book. I finally felt empathy toward her.
The whole teacher/apprentice thing does rub me the wrong way, but not as much as the fact that he knew her since she was a little girl. And I get it, now she is a woman, or at least, she's getting there and I love that. She's kick ass, she touch, she's sexy, etc.
But even if I try to forget all the supposely "issues", I still don't see how all the good parts automatically make her a match to Harry.
I don't feel a natural flow in the story that says to me: yeah, it's going in that direction. It feels forced to me.
But again, maybe I'm the one living in denial :D I'm cool with it :)
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