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DominicJ:

--- Quote from: teamlash on July 15, 2011, 06:32:12 PM ---but I never really saw that as the 'physical' angel.
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I'd assumed angels didnt have physical bodies, unless they created them with soul fire.

Bob sayas words to the effect of "Thats all they are Harry, souls", about angels.

sociotard:
I suppose that a time-traveler could have gone to prehistoric times and made the writing.

One way or another, I'd guess that the writing was made a long time before the lighthouse and cottage, just because the function and style of those kind of structures seems too modern.  My impression was that those buildings were left over from the botched attempt at settling the island, and the builders used the rune covered rock to build with. (using artifacts to build with was depressingly common at the time.)

contraducktory:

--- Quote from: Silkki on July 18, 2011, 08:19:47 AM ---Just one thing. Is the lighthouse a lighthouse. Or is it an ancient tower that Harry just presumes was a lighthouse instead of livingquaters of most powerfull powerfullnes of his time

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From how the island is described, and the fact that the fire they followed to get to the correct location to get through the stone reef was near the 'tower', I would go with it was a lighthouse.  What the stones came from before that, is another story.

Orbweaver:

--- Quote from: itari on July 18, 2011, 08:40:34 AM --- :D
Uh, so how do animals other than humans reproduce? They don't have human souls. And what about changelings?

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Gross out Factor: Tapeworms carry both male and female genitalia. They don't need a partner.

All that we presently have on the Skinwalker is this, as told from Bob's (slightly anecdotal) point of view in Turn Coat, page 212-213, hardback edition: "You're using the English word, which doesn't really describe them very precisely. Most skinwalkers are just people- powerful, dangerous, and often psychotic people, but people. They're successors to the traditions and skills taught to avaricious mortals by the originals. The naagloshii." "Originals like Shagnasty", I said. "He's the real deal, all right," Bob replied, his quiet voice growing serious. "According to some stories of the Navajo, the naagloshii were originally messengers for the Holy People, when they were first teaching humans the Blessing Way." "Messengers?" I said. "Like angels?"

"Or like those guys on bikes in New York, maybe?" Bob said. "Not all couriers are created identical, Mr. Lowest-Common denominator. Anyway, the original messengers, the naagloshii, were supposed to go with the Holy People when they departed the mortal world. But some of them didn't. They stayed here, and their selfishness corrupted the power the Holy People gave them. Voila, Shagnasty."

And as for the procreation issue, here's what Bob had to say about it on page 212: "It's a semidivine immortal, Harry. It doesn't procreate. It has no need to recombine DNA. That means that gender doesn't apply. That's something only you meat sacks worry about."

Based on that statement, it seems as though there are quite a few things running around that don't have procreation requirements, but may also have souls regardless of that factor. Shaggy was created as a messenger, initially- which places him way outside of any category we've come across in the past, because he's not based on the typical definition of life.

DominicJ:
Edited now on computer
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During the fight with the naagloshi, possibly after it ends, the Naagloshi expalins to Harry that he has tortured Thomas beyond sanity, and was considering throwing thomas into the house with molly before Harry Force Ringed him in.
Only he doesnt say house, he says "Hogan", which is a type of navajo dwelling, one that had strong religious connotations.

Is he just using a generic word for house, or is the lighthouse/cottage a spiritual "Hogan"?

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