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Reviving my Major Lash theory post
Sm0kEyNy:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 08, 2011, 02:21:47 AM ---Second Derivative Theory:
Uriel didn't give Harry Soulfire
It is my theory that if my above "Foundation Theory, and First Derivative Theory are true, then when Uriel “jostled Harry’s elbow”xrt#3 he did not invest part of his own energy into Harry to give him access, but rather nudged Harry into pulling the trigger on the Soulfire gun that was already in his hand, and made available to him through his latent connection with Lash who had already used Soulfire. This would make Uriel’s “favor” a truly small one, and reinforces the Foundational Theory. (props to LML for the trigger/gun analogy)
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My only problem with this is the construct it self it seems very clear that harry has NO CLUE how this was done or how to duplicate it. so even if your right about harry acces to soulfire not being the gift from uriel that people think it is. This does also fit in with your theory tho.
Sort of a by the way you haver soulfire here let me show you how it works real quick an when u get the hang of it you too can do stuff like THIS!
Dot:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 08, 2011, 02:21:47 AM ---Second Derivative Theory:
Uriel didn't give Harry Soulfire
It is my theory that if my above "Foundation Theory, and First Derivative Theory are true, then when Uriel “jostled Harry’s elbow”xrt#3 he did not invest part of his own energy into Harry to give him access, but rather nudged Harry into pulling the trigger on the Soulfire gun that was already in his hand, and made available to him through his latent connection with Lash who had already used Soulfire. This would make Uriel’s “favor” a truly small one, and reinforces the Foundational Theory. (props to LML for the trigger/gun analogy)
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Lash might have used some of it to help Harry out in defiance of her coin's purpose, but I think Harry first tapped soulfire, somehow, way back in book 2. I was rereading Fool Moon a while back, and this passage jumped out at me:
--- Quote ---Somewhere, in all of that, I touched on something that wasn’t tapped out, in spite of how horrible the past days had been, something that hadn’t gone cold and numb inside of me. I grasped it, held it in my hand like a firefly, and willed its energy out, into the circle I had created with the spinning amulet on the end of its chain. It began to glow, azure-blue like a candle flame. The light spread down the chain and to the amulet, and when it reached it the light became incandescent, the pentacle a brilliant light at the end of the chain..." Kindle location 4354
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It isn't the amulet itself that is glowing blue at first - it is the energy that Harry summons from inside himself. And the blue light amplified the power he was pumping into the amulet already. That seems like a soulfire boost to me. I don't know how angelic beings figure into it at this point. But Harry guesses later that the Black Council was behind the wolf belts - perhaps they were "cheating" in doing so, which in turn allowed for somebody to give Harry a little boost.
Edit to add: Related to the thought about cheating, when Harry soulgazed Denton, he saw the agent's formerly orderly self coated in "a thick, sticky black sludge that smells like swamps and things that attract dun-colored flies" (Kindle location 3955). At this point in the series, that makes me think of the Formor. And they seem to be bad guys, or at least have bad things in mind for Chicago magic users.
sociotard:
--- Quote ---"If it's no big deal," I said, "then why is it so interesting?"
"Oh, well," Bob said. "It is energy, you know. And I wonder if maybe...maybe...well, look, Harry. There was a tiny bit of Lasciel's energy in you, supporting the entity, giving you access to hellfire. That's gone now, but the entity had to have had some kind of power source to turn against the essence of its own originator."
"So it was running off my soul? Like I'm some kind of battery?"
“Hey,” Bob said, “don’t get all righteous. You gave it to her. Encouraging her to make her own choices, to rebel, to exercise free will.” Bob shook his head. Free will is horrible, Harry, believe me. I’m glad I don’t have it. Ugh, no, thank you. But you gave her some. You gave her a name. The will came with it.”
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Now I'm going to wonder if Dresden will give Bob a little unwelcome gift later on.
Datakim:
--- Quote from: sociotard on July 13, 2011, 02:59:50 AM ---Now I'm going to wonder if Dresden will give Bob a little unwelcome gift later on.
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Should bob not already have free will then to some extent atleast? Afterall, Harry gave Bob a name too. If Harry giving Lash her name gave her free will, then why is the same not true for Bob. For that matter, it is kinda strange that this was not brought up in the dialog you quoted such as Harry mentioning to Bob that when it comes to names, his situation is rather similar to Lash.
Maybe Bob does not really THINK of himself as Bob, even if he responds to that name, but Lash did at the end. Or something like that? Maybe Bob would have to somehow embrace the name and the identity/free will that comes with it, and thats what happened with Lash at the end.
Tanstar:
--- Quote from: Crawker on July 08, 2011, 12:23:59 PM ---Harry was a good person before, but he couldn't always use it. And he's made morally grey decisions since and still has the soulfire going strong. So I'd assume it needs to be activated by an angelic being, rather than by being good.
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Perhaps turning (even just a photocopy of) a fallen angel back toward the light is a bigger deal and made him worthy of soulfire. This would make Lash instrumental to Harry being able to use soulfire, but it wouldn't be a gift, but something he'd earned. I like this concept.
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