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Reviving my Major Lash theory post
Crawker:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 08, 2011, 12:14:50 PM ---Slightly reworded the question
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I'm pretty sure that the second part of that question would get the answer "I'm not gonna tell you!" in a singsong voice. Because if the sponsorship required active investment each time Harry used soulfire it may either confirm Uriel helping Harry on a regular basis, or Lash still being around in some form.
But I bet at the very least a mortal needs to be nudged in the right direction by an angelic being, at least the first time.
After all, isn't the whole point of soulfire, making the user more of who they are meant to be (achieving their full potential in terms of not just power, but also in terms of their character)? If everyone could use it, there would be a lot fewer problems in the world. Harry was a good person before, but he couldn't always use it. And he's made morally grey decisions since and still has the soulfire going strong. So I'd assume it needs to be activated by an angelic being, rather than by being good.
Same goes for hellfire, considering the bonuses it gives to spells, wouldn't every evil guy with a hint of magical talent be using it if you could just get it by being naughty?
Black Dane:
As stated, we know from WoJ that Lasciel is coming back, and she is going to be major league pissed off (the whole woman scorned thing). IMO, her story has the potential to make Nick’s efforts look like those of just some ordinary school yard bully.
Harry may not have only changed Lash, but in doing so permanently ripped away a part of Lasciel. We don’t know just how significant the Shadow is to the whole of a Denarian, but my thought is that a major part of the original goes into the creation of a Shadow. My rationale for this is the connection to hell fire, and the strength needed to provide/maintain that connection. Think about the pain experience when something is called soul wrenching. For humans, it’s emotionally painful. Now imagine the impact on an entity of nothing but soul. The effect could be both physical and emotional, and incredibly amplified.
I’d love to see not only Lasciel return for revenge, but also to have been driven so insane by Harrys’ actions (the whole unintended consequences thing) that even Nick wants her stopped. If Lash returns, it probably will not be until the BAT, but I could see Lasciel showing up a book or two before, and setting the whole thing off.
contraducktory:
In support of this theory.
The only way for Lash to be gone, is for her to be 'absorbed' when the coin is taken up.
So, what if the damage to his brain, didn't get rid of Lash, but just made her inaccessible. She'd still be there, and possibly be able to act/influence, but not able to directly interact as she did before. So Lash is still in Harry's head, and when he's 'healed', or maybe was healed by Mab, Lash could return. That would leave Lasciel still in the coin, and able to claim a victim. While Lash is able to help Harry.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: contraducktory on July 08, 2011, 02:30:05 PM ---The only way for Lash to be gone, is for her to be 'absorbed' when the coin is taken up.
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Why do we think that's the only way ?
It being the only way anyone who has talked to Harry about know about is one thing, but we know the Denarians regularly trash information about themselves.
Brayt:
Just a thought,
What if the part of harry's soul that is used up is actually taken by lash for two reasons;
1) she actually has been removed from his brain and knew this would happen when she protected him and (bc of newfound free will) was un willing to die. So she took the soul to use to manifest later as a teacher slash guide in later books IE GS
2) part of harry's soul had been tainted by temptation and in order to totally protect him she not only chose to remove herself from brain but also the damage to soul. This is a win win win. Harry can use soulfire instead of hellfire without taint, lash can exist as a seperate entity and JB doesn't have to worry about things getting too easy for harry with a fully cooperative lash in his mind.
Note: be gentle, I can't spell nor have I read all of the posts here so if I have stepped on any toes or repeated someone elses work or ideas I am sorry and it was not intentional
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