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Reviving my Major Lash theory post
Beamer:
Would Lash changing teams have any effect on her and/or Harry’s ability to access hellfire.
This could poke a hole in your theory, place a time for her rebellion, or be completely meaningless, depending on the answer.
HadeN:
--- Quote from: Beamer on July 08, 2011, 03:56:09 AM ---Would Lash changing teams have any effect on her and/or Harry’s ability to access hellfire.
This could poke a hole in your theory, place a time for her rebellion, or be completely meaningless, depending on the answer.
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I would say a definite maybe. This wouldn't do anything/ maybe actually support the theory though. Lash didn't switch and start using soulfire until the last few seconds in Harry. That means we never got to see directly if it did anything. If Uriel actually did show Harry how to use soulfire through residual energy from Lash, then her switching would probably mean he couldn't use hellfire anymore (no one would need to show him how, but he still couldn't) I would say that this point makes a good argument for her switching on its own.
Serack:
--- Quote from: Beamer on July 08, 2011, 03:56:09 AM ---Would Lash changing teams have any effect on her and/or Harry’s ability to access hellfire.
This could poke a hole in your theory, place a time for her rebellion, or be completely meaningless, depending on the answer.
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My take: When Lash rebelled against her originator, the bit of lasciel's energy that was giving Harry access to hellfire was either destroyed of fundamentally changed to the point where it was no longer the same thing... I.E. Soulfire and Hellfire are 2 sides of the same coin and that coin had now flipped. So yah he wouldn't have access to hell fire any more (He didn't obviously) and instead he had access to soulfire, he just didn't know it/didn't know how to access it.
Serack:
--- Quote from: spinningcats on July 08, 2011, 03:34:02 AM ---I really hope she doesn't come back. One of the worst parts of the books imo. Besides being overpowered and letting Harry know or do anything when he needed to (speak any language, play the guitar, memorize anything, hellfire) I really, really disliked the interactions with his subconcious inside his head.
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I hope she comes back, but not within Harry, for the reasons you give. All the reasons you give for her being overpowered were balanced by the fact that they came with a price. He was slowly having his soul and identity eroded. It's when this price went away because she had rebelled against her originator that it becomes truly overpowered, and hence she was offed.
X:
--- Quote --- Serack
My take: When Lash rebelled against her originator, the bit of lasciel's energy that was giving Harry access to hellfire was either destroyed of fundamentally changed to the point where it was no longer the same thing... I.E. Soulfire and Hellfire are 2 sides of the same coin and that coin had now flipped. So yah he wouldn't have access to hell fire any more (He didn't obviously) and instead he had access to soulfire, he just didn't know it/didn't know how to access it.
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The problem I have with this statement is that you are essentially suggesting that a mere imprint of a time immortal being was able to give Harry access to Soulfire. The reason I think that Lash allowed Harry the use of Hellfire is because that is the nature of the Denarians. They offer power, and Lasciel herself is known as The Temptress. If that is her nature, then offering a small sampling of power in exchange for binding his soul is well within her nature, thus the imprint is allowed to give access to Hellfire.
Harry gave Lash, a mere shadow free will, to go against her creator, but to say that the mere shadow that was Lash gave Harry access to Soulfire, and allowed him to use it after she was no longer present within him as far as we know, I find that to be an extreme stretch.
Furthermore, in Turn Coat, Uriel himself converses with Harry, informing him of the good side actually doing something, just not in a noticeable way at first, then Mab appears and gives us a little backstory regarding Uriel. If Lash gave Harry the ability to use Soulfire, then you are essentially saying that Jim Butcher himself planted Uriel, a freaking Archangel, in the series as a red herring. Possible? Yes. But I disagree.
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