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Origins of the Three Eye drug. (Changes spoiler)
Phariah:
--- Quote from: Jefe on June 29, 2011, 02:54:12 PM ---Also, the bloodline curse in Changes and the heart exploder in SF killed in similar ways, but the ritual in SF was NOT a bloodline curse, it used a thaumaturgic link powered by ritual sex. I don't think it needs to be the same person teaching sells and the Red Court. If two coaches who have never met each other both grew up knowing the rules of football and watching the same games, it is not unlikely they will both draw up similar plays. So I don't know if the connection is necessarily there, other than Arianna getting nudged into action that involved Harry.
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--- Quote from: KeyMasterOfGozer on June 29, 2011, 05:07:16 PM ---Where do we have evidence that 3eye is a "far advanced" potion? He did not have the "Bloodline Curse", though the curse he used did have a similar effect, it did not target a bloodline. He had a demon summoned, it is possible that the bound demon was compelled to tell him something about curses, or even potion making. Or it could have been another demon that he summoned. All of this is speculation, of course.
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Changes page 161-162 for whole convo. i am just using the important piece.
Harry,"How does it work?"
Vadderung,"it tears out the heart. rips it to bits on the way out, too. sound familiar?"
Harry," hell's bells." it had been years since i had even thought about Victor Sells or his victims.
Vaderung, "it's all connected, Dresden. the whole game. and you're now beginning to learn who the players are. the sorcerer who used the spell in Chicago before didn't have strength enough to make it spread past the initial target. the RC does.no one has used Power on that scale in more than a millennium."
Tesla:
Yanno 3E does seem like it could be a variation of the Gatekeepers eye ointment... :o
KeyMasterOfGozer:
--- Quote from: Phariah on June 29, 2011, 05:41:03 PM ---Changes page 161-162 for whole convo. i am just using the important piece.
Harry,"How does it work?"
Vadderung,"it tears out the heart. rips it to bits on the way out, too. sound familiar?"
Harry," hell's bells." it had been years since i had even thought about Victor Sells or his victims.
Vaderung, "it's all connected, Dresden. the whole game. and you're now beginning to learn who the players are. the sorcerer who used the spell in Chicago before didn't have strength enough to make it spread past the initial target. the RC does.no one has used Power on that scale in more than a millennium."
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Yes, I put that in my edit above as well, but it doesn't specifically say that it is the same spell, just that they are similar, and that Sells' version didn't have enough power to go bloodline. One could infer that it was the same spell, but it doesn't seem definitive. You can feel from the whole conversation that Vadderung *can't* fill Harry in on all the details. It seems to me that Vadderung is using this to point something out to Harry so he can find a method to defeat it, but he can't go into more specifics.
kazimmoinuddin:
imagine the effect of third eye on all those minor talents, the WC trying to deal thousand of dark mini warlocks.
Eleyctra:
This thread made me remember a part of SF that bothers/confuses me:
Its when Harry go visits Murphy after getting concussed, and in the precinct hallway a 3E junkie trying to escape runs into Harry. The junkie then screams out (something like) "I see you! I see you wizard! I see those who come before, and He Who Walks Behind!"
Now while 3E does give the user the ability to see the metaphysical, how does this junkie know the name of an demon/outsider?
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