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Discontinuity = clue? [GS sample ch spoilers]
Niarlan:
Just a point I noticed, Stu didn't invite Harry in to the house over the threshold. He took him prisoner...now if Stu is the designated guardian of the home he would have the power to bring Harry into the home but without power inside.
Nia
knnn:
Hey Serack. Nice compilation!
Just to add another something to the mix (this is not quite a discrepancy, but hey), at the end of chapter one, Harry casually talks about "saying goodbye to his grandfather". Since he only found about this specific familial connection rather recently, and given how much importance Harry places on family (re. contrast with the effect of finding out he has a brother), this seems a little out of character.
Duke Blue:
Serack,
First I want to say that I was very impressed by your catch of the inconsistent descriptions. I just had a thought of a possible explanation that I thought I would throw out to see what your take was on it. I really don't know about the house but as far as the descriptions of Mort here it goes... Mort appears to look pretty much like he did in Dead Beat but Harry is saying that this is the first time that he has seen him like that with the weight loss and the shaved head. That could mean that someone or something has caused Harry to completely forget his meeting with Mort in Dead Beat. If you couple that with the sudden recent attacks on Morty both ghostly and now physically it could mean that someone is trying to make sure that Harry can't be reminded by Mort about that meeting either.
Now as I recall, during their conversation in DB, Mort had ghosts show on a map locations where necromancy had been used around Chicago recently. Now Harry never got to check out more than a couple of those locations before he got caught up with other leads but could it is possible that one of those other locations that Harry never visited will actually be a vital clue to resolving the current situation. Its a bit speculative but there you go.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Duke Blue on July 18, 2011, 04:38:57 PM ---That could mean that someone or something has caused Harry to completely forget his meeting with Mort in Dead Beat.
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Thing is, it's more than just forgotten memories. If you look at Serack's OP, you'll find that Mort had moved away from his California-style house by the beginning of DB. So either Mort moved back so the place he had previously sold - just in time for Harry to go there (remember he writes down a specific address, not just "take me to Morty"), or *something else* is going on.
My current take on things is that's it's an "Enterprise C" sort of scenario, i.e. Harry has been transported to a sort of alternate universe where "history" is different:
effects so far:
1) Mort never moved.
2) He's known about his grandfather/daughter for a while.
3) His hand never got burned.
Following this logic down a rabbit hole, all this suggests that the point of change took place between chapter 10 of Dead Beat (when he visits Mort) and the story of Death Masks (when Maggie is conceived).
So why?
- One possibility is that the "timeline shift" is actually an attempt by Uriel et al. to help Harry (i.e. make it easier for him to solve his murder and thereby get back).
- The other possibility I am currently playing with is that the murder weapon itself was a sort of Entropy Curse (possibly pointing toward Lord Raith as the culprit - which matches the timeline):
Consider that a turkey falling out of an airplane flying at 30,000 feet can take around a minute to hit the ground. This means that in order for a falling turkey hit a moving target (especially when the target gets changed at the last moment), you need to somehow know in advance where your target will be standing. Assuming we accept this, it means that an entropy curse can somehow reach back in time to achieve the currently desired effects. Yadda Yadda.
Serack:
--- Quote from: knnn on July 18, 2011, 05:35:27 PM ---Thing is, it's more than just forgotten memories. If you look at Serack's OP, you'll find that Mort had moved away from his California-style house by the beginning of DB. So either Mort moved back so the place he had previously sold - just in time for Harry to go there (remember he writes down a specific address, not just "take me to Morty"), or *something else* is going on.
My current take on things is that's it's an "Enterprise C" sort of scenario, i.e. Harry has been transported to a sort of alternate universe where "history" is different:
effects so far:
1) Mort never moved.
2) He's known about his grandfather/daughter for a while.
3) His hand never got burned.
--- End quote ---
I wouldn't say never got burned, because he does remember it being burned.
--- Quote from: GS chapter 2 ---I looked at my left hand and saw that it was no longer covered in scar tissue from the burns I’d received years ago. It was whole, as if it had never been harmed.
--- End quote ---
--- Quote from: knnn on July 18, 2011, 05:35:27 PM ---Following this logic down a rabbit hole, all this suggests that the point of change took place between chapter 10 of Dead Beat (when he visits Mort) and the story of Death Masks (when Maggie is conceived).
So why?
- One possibility is that the "timeline shift" is actually an attempt by Uriel et al. to help Harry (i.e. make it easier for him to solve his murder and thereby get back).
- The other possibility I am currently playing with is that the murder weapon itself was a sort of Entropy Curse (possibly pointing toward Lord Raith as the culprit - which matches the timeline):
Consider that a turkey falling out of an airplane flying at 30,000 feet can take around a minute to hit the ground. This means that in order for a falling turkey hit a moving target (especially when the target gets changed at the last moment), you need to somehow know in advance where your target will be standing. Assuming we accept this, it means that an entropy curse can somehow reach back in time to achieve the currently desired effects. Yadda Yadda.
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He also remembers his duster falling appart:
--- Quote ---I noticed idly that I was wearing jeans, a plain black T-shirt, and my black leather duster—which had been torn to shreds and consigned to the waters of the lake an hour or three before I got shot. I mean, my duster had died.
--- End quote ---
I haven't reread everything so I'm not confident, but it seems as though the events of changes have happened to him...
meh, I've speculated enough, I'll wait another week+ so that I can just read it...
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