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Byers:
Mort from Ch4.

"Morty, what?” he snapped back. “You’ve got to be kidding me. I am not getting involved in whatever international crisis you mean to perpetrate next.”

I take "international crisis" to mean that Mort is refering to the destruction of the Red Court and the shake up in both the natural and supernatural worlds due to the power vaccum.  This also agrees with Stu's timeline of 6 months.  I also find the snow on the ground to be interesting.  I take it to mean that Mab is exerting her influence for some reason, either in response to Harry's death or the stated crisis.

taishojojo:

--- Quote from: spiritofair on July 06, 2011, 06:50:49 PM ---Stu says that ghosts can become unattached to time... maybe Dresden's ghost is in the past.  That would explain why Mort says weird things like, "It’s not enough that you have to keep dragging me into things in life. So now your stupid ghost shows up to do it, too?"  The tense of this is all wrong.  If ghosts can time travel, Mort would know it, so he wouldn't clue Harry in on it.  When did the blizzard hit Chicago during one of the past books?  Was it May?  If so, maybe that is "when" Harry's ghost is at right now.

There is some really weird discontinuities, though, regarding Mort's house.  Harry remembers being killed and saving Maggie and killing Susan BUT he doesn't remember Mort having been bald before or moving to the duplex.  So, if Harry is in the past, he remembers "powerful events" like Maggie and Chichen Itza, but doesn't remember things like Mort?  That doesn't make much sense.

Unless the stuff about Mort's house and lack of hair is an error, which is unlikely, Harry's ghost is in the past and while he remembers some things about right before he died (Maggie and the offing of the Red Court and his apartment getting burned down), he doesn't remember Mort moving.  Nothing else makes sense, but, what I'm saying doesn't make much sense, either!

But if they are in the past, how does Stu know Harry has been dead for 6 months.

This all doesn't make much sense at all.  That's about all I can conclude, LOL.

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As far as Stu inviting Harry in... as I understood it a resident could invite. Stu may not be a relation to Mortimer but still resides in the house.
I had considered that this was the original ghost created by Harry but I couldn't explain how the ghost knew about CI. (this would have explained the time thing and getting the houses wrong....)
Also... Morty complains about Harry dragging him into an international incident. The only one I'm aware of is CI itself (I dont consider Death Masks to be an international incident). As near as I can tell this is current.
Also... I'm sure this qualifies as DUH but Harry's being played. (of course when is Harry not being played)

This has been commented before but it bears repeating....
Hes only being shown what THEY (whoever THEY is) want Harry to think... THEY are laying nout the dots for him to connect.
Thats why 'Jack' calls Karrin, Karrie; it comes off as endearing until you think Karrie aint short for Karrin. Even you make the stretch that some thick accent makes it come across as Karr-een.
Thats why Amitiel shuts down Harry's sight... Amitiel is the Angel of Truth in some cultures and a fallen angel in others.

I'm firmly wut-duh-fudge... (I can hear cosmic giggling... dont think I dont notice)

laura118b:
Except a very much alive and knew her father Rawlins called Murphy Karrie as well.  Pet names are hard to qualify, it may be that her little sister or a brother had problems saying Karren and Karrie just stuck with the family.

Durwen:
Maybe Harry is seeing things on a spiritual plane rather than on a purely physical level. In a sort of semi-Sight slash Soulgaze, he might be perceiving the world in idealized and symbolic images. So far he's dealt with basically good people (nice to look at) and evil ghost-eating monsters (u-gly).

Maybe that's what Lash and Uriel talked about when they said Harry needed to die to understand. Maybe he's seeing things as they really are, no longer encumbered by his... biology. 

Serack:

--- Quote from: KnightShade on July 06, 2011, 04:54:03 PM ---One you might be missing... are we certain that ghosts are capable of issuing invitations over threshholds?
Could Harry's mind/subconscious/imagination be compensating for his expectations of needing an invitation?

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I'll come back to the posts made after this later, I've gota step away from the computer for a bit but first:

But Harry isn't at Mort's home, so why would he need Mort's permission to step over the threshold?

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