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Discontinuity = clue? [GS sample ch spoilers]
Serack:
--- Quote from: Lothy on July 05, 2011, 04:35:34 PM ---I take it to mean that as a Spirit Harry is seeing things as he knows them, instead of how they are. In other words his vision is tainted by his own thoughts and ideas. So he sees Mort as natural Mort. I would not be surprised if he saw Murphy as a flaming angel should he come across her.
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--- Quote from: Lothy on July 05, 2011, 04:44:26 PM ---If you find any more clues be sure to post, I am so hungry for Dresden and my time machine to propel me 3 weeks into the future is an utter failure. ;D
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Ok here goes... I am thinking "aloud" I don't know if I have goten anywhere with these thoughts, but I'm going to share them as they develop.
Your comment got me wondering if there are any clues showing how what Harry is seeing isn't how things are actually happening, and I figured I would focus on what Sir Stu is doing.
And the thing is, during the whole time Harry is talking to Mort, here are the mentionings of Stu: (First Mort addresses Stu without turning to him, but cuts himself off and the convo between Harry and Mort begins)
--- Quote ---We entered a kitchen, where I found Sir Stuart already present, his arms folded, leaning back against a wall with a quiet smile as he watched. Mort went to a large cookie jar, opened it, and took out a single Oreo before replacing the lid.
...
“Dammit, Morty,” I snarled, and braced myself for the plunge through his door after him.
“Dresden, st—!” Sir Stuart said.
Too late. I slammed my nose and face into the door and fell backward onto my ass like a perfect idiot. My face began to throb immediately, swelling with pain that felt precisely normal, identical to that of any dummy who walked into a solid oak door.
“—op,” Sir Stuart finished. He sighed, and offered me a hand up.
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Then Stu says this:
--- Quote ---"You’ll have to forgive him, Dresden. He can be very slow to understand things at times.”
“I don’t have time to wait for him to catch on,” I said. “I need his help.”
Sir Stuart grinned some more. “You aren’t going to get it by standing there repeating yourself like a broken record. Repeating yourself like a broken record. Repeating yourself like a broken—”
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Which got me thinking, If what is actually transpiring around Harry in the real world is different from what Harry is percieving, lets cut out Harry's observations of the RL, and just focus on what Harry is saying. (I'm doing this part as I paste it in here)
--- Quote ---“Hiya, Morty,” I said.
...
“I need to talk to—”
...
“Morty, come on, it’s never been like that,” I said. “I’ve come to ask your help a couple of times because you’re a capable professional and—”
...
“Morty, please.”
...
“It’s not like I’ve got a lot of choice in the matter, man. It’s you or no one. Please. Just hear me out.”
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“Dammit, Morty,” I snarled, and braced myself for the plunge through his door after him.
“Dresden, st—!” Sir Stuart said.
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That didn't get me as far as I had hoped...
So, the thing that seems the most out of place is the deliberate stopping to get a single oreo cookie. If it's true that what is actually happening on the real plane is not like what Harry thinks he is experiencing, either that is nothing like what had happened, or it's the only thing that actually happened the way Harry percieved it...
It still doesn't explain why Harry went to the California-import rather than the Duplex, and it doesn't explain why Harry forgot that he saw Mort with a shaved head back in DB
doink67:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 05, 2011, 06:40:35 PM ---
It still doesn't explain why Harry went to the California-import rather than the Duplex, and it doesn't explain why Harry forgot that he saw Mort with a shaved head back in DB
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Mab was messing with his brain again ;D
I'd say that dying tends to make you forget things like that, but this is The Dresden Files, and nothing happens without a reason.
But this is shaping up to be good.
Joefoe:
maybe in deadbeat he saw a glimpse of the future?
itari:
--- Quote from: Dead Beat ---He was short, twenty or thirty
pounds overweight
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and
--- Quote from: Ghost Story ---I mean, he wasn’t going to be modeling for Abercrombie & Fitch or anything, but he’d definitely dropped from self-destructively obese down to merely stout.
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20-30 pounds overweight is not self-destructively obese in my book, even if he's short (a little bit below 5'6" - that would be 166-167 cm).
Let's do the math 'cause I'm a nerd.
The normal/overweight threshold (according to body mass index wikipedia page) is around 70 kg/155 lb for someone who's Morty's height. If we assume that he's 30 lb overweight (83 kg/185 lb), he's still in the "overweight" range, and not "obese".
Dina:
I have nothing to add to this thread, but it is so extremely interesting than I needed to post something as a thread.
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