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taishojojo:

--- Quote from: Serack on July 19, 2011, 01:21:52 PM ---Yah, I'm always very skeptical of any theory based off of time travel (including this one).  Because I usually think they are cheap, and are likely to introduce more problems in the story than they fix.

However, as the title implies, there is a serious, almost blatant discontinuity here.

On top of that we have the author strongly implying that Harry will break the law on time travel at some point in the series.  There is also a seperate comment comparing the opening timeline of this book to the first scene of BTTF2... which might be a big flashing arrow to time travel being the culprit for the discontinuity as well.

Speaking of magical solutions creating more problems than they fix.  I haven't plugged Brandon Sanderson's First Law of magic in a while.  It basically states that if a writer is writing a book with magic, that magic's ability to solve problems in the book has to be proportional to how well the readers understand how it works.

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Like I said, theres time travel and theres time travel.... I'm ok with the Molly and Harry go to the dawn of time and she ascends to Mab-hood... that kinda time travel brings an entirely new setting... author is not modifying his/her current one.
Sandersons First Law... I just read it. probably explains why I dont like fantasy. I say that and one of my favorite books, coincidentally, Enchantment by Orson Scott Card; expressly because I liked the way he handled magic.

Jaeh:
(2 cents for OP tho it's from way back, but whatever)

I just assumed he moved back for the threshold. maybe he knows something's up and all.

(ftr: haven't finished reading the rest of the posts)

toodeep:

--- Quote from: Serack on July 18, 2011, 06:58:29 PM ---I believe ghost dust is too heavy for a ghost to manipulate.  Remember how Agatha had to rip her arm off to move?

SHAZAM!!!! I think  you got it, especially cause of bob's eye color!!!!!

Edit:  Hold up... on second thought, I was thinking you ment he was in Dead Beat's time line, but that doesn't quite work...  I'm a little wierded out here, but I think you might be on to something.

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Maybe Harry's ghost dust with depleted uranium in it is too heavy to move when actually attached to a ghost, but I was thinking other types might just essentially make object solid to those of the ghostly world.  Unlikely, but I was throwing it out there.

I like the idea that the entire situation at Mort's could be happening back during Dead Beat, after Cowl stole Bob, but before the darkhallow.  It make some sense that the necromancers would have been ani-mort, though it seems like they would have had bigger things on their minds at the time.  Of course, I haven't reread to check, but was there snow on the ground at the time?  Also, it totally goes in the face of what Sir Stu said.

Finally, I like the discussion of this possibly being the book where Harry time-travels.  After all, Harry is big on magic having to follow the rules of physics, and when you actually think of the physics of moving someone back in time (removing all that e=mc^2 from here to there) that would be staggering amounts of energy, but if he did it while a ghost, then there would be no movement of mass...  It also ties into comments about spirits being able to view time differently, while mortal bodies have limitations.

itari:
This is because time does not exist indepedently. Events (defined as points in the timespace) can probably be perceived in a different way by non-human entities. The Gatekeeper is a strong candidate too.

http://does-time-exist.info/

LewisH:
So now that the book is released (at least for some people) do we have a definitive answer about the discontinuities. I'd really like to know if it is a true plot point and not just Jim having forgotten something he had written in a previous book.

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