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A fresh perspective on Proven Guity (Spoilers for everything)
Piotr1600:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 11, 2011, 01:22:04 AM ---#1
Sandra Marling is usually pointed to as the main orchestrator for all things nasty that happened at Splattercon since she motivated Molly to use fear, and people point out that she didn't touch Harry. However, if she were powerful enough to knock out the lights and set up the cold wards around the Fetch attacks, she might have trouble using a cell phone:
This doesn't definitively show that she wasn't the one throwing around magic but. It's a strike against her, and indicates there was another player in the background, that might have been using her as a cutout.
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If Sandra Marling is non-human (or potentially half human) that would answer the cell phone use issue.
I'm not saying that's how it was, just that it is a possibility...
Love the WAG about Rawlins (though I don't actually buy it. ;D ) but the premise that there's an infiltrator from the Bad GuysTM planted/working in SI is probably worth examining, particularly if we assume that Rawlins is a Renfield/thrall, rather than an actual power.
It could/would just mean that he reported Harry's preparations to... someone else... like say a handler for the 'event', named, just perhaps, Sandra...
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Sm0kEyNy on July 11, 2011, 02:16:50 PM ---kincaid has no magical talent tho so that not really a good comparison
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We actually don't know scions with magical talents.
Maybe it is even more difficult. If the magic comes from the human parent.........
knnn:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 11, 2011, 01:22:04 AM ---
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Sandra Marling is usually pointed to as the main orchestrator for all things nasty that happened at Splattercon since she motivated Molly to use fear, and people point out that she didn't touch Harry. However, if she were powerful enough to knock out the lights and set up the cold wards around the Fetch attacks, she might have trouble using a cell phone:
This doesn't definitively show that she wasn't the one throwing around magic but. It's a strike against her, and indicates there was another player in the background, that might have been using her as a cutout.
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Ooh, I didn't even think of her as anything more than a catspaw with no talent (i.e. maybe nothing more than an enthralled mortal). I mean, she was friends with Molly for quite a while, so if there was any talent there, you'd think Molly might have picked up on it.
I like this idea, but as you point out, she does use a cell phone.... Unless maybe we want to say this was really Marva in disguise? Marva didn't seem to have any problem with the photos she took while under a veil...
;D ;D ;D
--- Quote from: Serack on July 11, 2011, 01:22:04 AM ---#2
If Glau was another cutout for who set Madrigal Raith up to take the fall for the Fetch attacks, and the Scarecrow took him out to silence him, then that implies that Mab was involved in that setup.
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Glau could have been the cutout to set Madrigal up with Molly, and Mab could simply be trying to take out the opposition. I also like AA's suggestion that Mab sent Scarecrow to help Harry escape (as a distraction?).
--- Quote from: Serack on July 11, 2011, 01:22:04 AM ---#3
Someone directed Harry's wammy reversal to detect Molly from within his web on the Theater.
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I had a bit of trouble with this one myself, here's what I came up with. It's not great, but I think it kinda fits:
- According to the MITT ("Molly is the Target Theory"), the BC members are just trying to keep a low profile while they convert Molly.
- All of a sudden, the convention they are hiding in is attacked by unknown Phobophages, shining a spotlight on their activeties. Cops arrive and so does Harry (Sandra would have reported it, and certainly Glau).
- Just like Harry, the BC members are probably going to be assuming that there is some other agency summoning the Phobopages (because sending them is much harder). This means that they believe there is another group of BMW ("Black Magic Wizards") working at cross purposes to them. They need to find them and take them out, all while avoiding Harry.
- Maybe this even means casting a spell to block Harry so they can reach (and take out) the BMW before they cause even more damage.
- Then Harry sets up his spell to turn the Fetches on "however is summoning them", and maybe hits one of the BC members, who manages to deflect it. Unfortunalty fetches then seemingly go and abduct Molly instead of the hypothetical BMW they believe are messing with their plans.
- In desperation, they send a force to save Molly from the Fetches.
In reality of course, Mab sent the Fetches specifically to pick up Molly, so that it was never the fault of Harry's spell. It just hit one of the BC wizards, who managed to deflect it.
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Final thought:
No matter who is behind the events in Splattercon, it seems likely that Namshiel and a bunch of other
"not-heavy-enough-weights" were lurking around town during that time. It would be interesting to look again and see if someone of Namshiel's humanfrom description (from SmF?) is described in the book.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: knnn on July 11, 2011, 03:17:45 PM ---In reality of course, Mab sent the Fetches specifically to pick up Molly, so that it was never the fault of Harry's spell. It just hit one of the BC wizards, who managed to deflect it.
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Whatever the larger strategic situation, that has a superfluous moving part.
Harry's defence against the phages is standard Council doctrine, we've established that. Mab knows how it's supposed to work. Mab sending fetches in a way that she knows will interact with Harry doing the standard Council defence for the apparent situation to give her Molly still seems to need no deflection, from my perspective, even if getting Molly is the whole point.
knnn:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on July 11, 2011, 08:02:50 PM ---Whatever the larger strategic situation, that has a superfluous moving part.
Harry's defence against the phages is standard Council doctrine, we've established that. Mab knows how it's supposed to work. Mab sending fetches in a way that she knows will interact with Harry doing the standard Council defence for the apparent situation to give her Molly still seems to need no deflection, from my perspective, even if getting Molly is the whole point.
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Good point!
I was trying to Occam Razor it with my theory, but if you take "I know Harry will use a deflection spell" as a given, your solution certainly has one fewer variables.
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