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[GS Spoilers] Harry's Power Ups
Serack:
--- Quote from: Phariah on June 20, 2011, 05:09:18 PM ---wow yes this is true also P1600. not only Toot. i would add in a few others tbh. Mouse, i mean apparently he shouldn't be as powerful away from his place of power. yet as he tells Lea he cheats because he has Harry.
Butters even. he now walks around w/ chalk and has a bp vest waitin for when Harry calls. he goesa from snivelling nervous to just shakey. Morty too, he gives him a boost in confidence after his first talk w/ him in GP.
and yes Murphy, she has gained more confidence facing supernatural. than add in what she has picked up from Harry, knowledge. the inheritted silver for the Loup, her knowledge about the magic dispelling when the sun rises. she has picked up things along the way that makes her far more formidable.
Molly, yes in magic it is obvious, but he also is giving her a stronger moral balance to help her and guide her. he also reunited her w/ her family to help ground her. so she has gained more control over herself which has made her stronger.
Alphas, he gave them a goal which in turn made them focus and become stronger. i mean Billy can even partially self heal now. they push to get better.
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I think you might enjoy reading this old topic on the subject (another one of my "lists")
Piotr1600:
--- Quote from: sociotard on June 20, 2011, 04:11:20 PM ---Except Murphy. She's been offered power, yes, but she declines it. She can take up a Sword any time she wants, but she won't. Harry has to push and prod her to take it up any time he needs her to.
Murphy Started out in Storm Front in charge of Special Investigations. So, not as important as Homicide or Vice or anything, but it was her own department and she was in charge. Then she lost that and became a mere grunt, and now she has lost that too.
Gard even offered her a shot at working for Monoc, where she might have gained special supernatural training, access to large resources, and who knows what else. (Yes, that last sentence was pure speculation on my part)
Power and influence in the mortal world? Lost. Supernatural power. Declined, repeatedly. Murphy is on a downward slope. In a series that has Free Will vs. Power as one of its themes, Murphy has chosen Free Will.
EDIT: I just read what I wrote. Holy crap, the only time she does take power (the sword) is when Harry influences her. He really does influence people to become stronger.
Even when it costs them a little Free Will and an angel turns them into a sock puppet.
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Agreed, but with some caveats...
Murphy-as-standard-vanilla-cop was relatively powerless vs. supernatural threats so long as she stayed within the current legal (and mental!) world-view.
She only got to be able to be effective when Harry changed her worldview (essentially educating her about the real supernatural)
Murphy as "not-normal" cop (awareness of supernatural milieu and a much closer friendship with Harry) was able to put the boot in a faery queen's (Aurora) avatar, distract/disable a supernatural assassin, stare down a 2 story tall Gruff, shoot the crap out of RCVs without panicking, and so on. That all comes from association with Harry and getting to know his character intimately.
She broke multiple state & federal laws essentially just to help Harry.
Now ex-cop Murphy has access to a VASTLY powerful artifact, and yet is (click to show/hide)still perfectly capable of taking out creatures waaay out of her weight class without it. (Aftermath spoiler)
Is she comfortable having/holding all that power? No, I think your sock puppet comment is dead-on & I think that's exactly why she tries to minimize using anything that is not pure vanilla - there are costs and side effects after all...
Arjan:
I remember reading some word of jim. The empowering is not only for his friends.
His enemies gain power influenced by him as well. Bianca, Lara, Marcone
Serack:
--- Quote from: Arjan on June 20, 2011, 06:55:58 PM ---I remember reading some word of jim. The empowering is not only for his friends.
His enemies gain power influenced by him as well. Bianca, Lara, Marcone
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I don't remember Jim saying it, but I pointed it out in the topic linked in my last post.
lovejoy69:
--- Quote from: Piotr1600 on June 20, 2011, 06:28:55 PM ---Agreed, but with some caveats...
Murphy-as-standard-vanilla-cop was relatively powerless vs. supernatural threats so long as she stayed within the current legal (and mental!) world-view.
She only got to be able to be effective when Harry changed her worldview (essentially educating her about the real supernatural)
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Murphy and Susan, Molly and Toot - they each contributed to Harry's additional growth/wisdom (thus more power) in one way we often have only touched on obliquely.
The Harry of Storm Front and Fool Moon was more than a little reluctant to disclose any information about the supernatural world to vanillas, or to those with less magical power than he. That outlook could have, in a different personality, have stemmed from a desire to keep others powerless and therefore less than himself as a wizard. In Harry's case, it arose from his reluctance to have others suffer fear and injury. Harry worried that if they knew a little then they might get overly bold and inclined to tangle with opponents who were out of their league. He was being too paternalistic, simply too overly protective.
Part of Harry's maturing, part of his increased strength, has been as he has come to the painful realization that he can't keep everyone safe on his own. Harry realizes that some of the bad outcomes which befell Murphy, Butters, Will and the Alphas, Kim Delaney, Lydia, even Molly and the Carpenters were directly caused by Harry not teaching them what could have helped them to better defend themselves.
Harry had to learn the hard way that although they aren't capable of handling what he does, of ever becoming wizard-level practitioners, they're better off to have as much knowledge as they can utilize. Susan wouldn't have gone uninvited to Bianca's ball had she known what she was risking by doing so.
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